RE: Re: using EDIT
"millon louis" <louis-gYGaU/[email protected]> Wed, 1 Dec 2010 00:44:04 +0100
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------=_NextPart_000_0039_01CB90F0.DB17C530 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_001_003A_01CB90F0.DB17C530" ------=_NextPart_001_003A_01CB90F0.DB17C530 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Roc =20 After some tests everithing is right. Thanks a lot =20 Louis =20 De : [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] De la part de Rocky Envoy=E9 : mardi 30 novembre 2010 16:23 =C0 : [email protected]; millon louis Objet : RE: [H390-VM] Re: using EDIT =20 =20=20 Louis --- =20 Whoops just reread what you wrote=85. =20 The command you have to give I believe is RUNGCIC ---- That's the EXEC tha= t does the FILEDEFS and starts GCIC. =20 Your machine will automatically Disconnect. Then DIAL into your machine again. =20 You will get a Password screen --- Try using MAINT CPCMS or if you have problems with that look at the exec and it will show the FILEDEF with the password file THESE ARE NOT NECESSARILY THE REAL PASSWORDS IN THE vm DIRECTORY. =20 From there on its straight forward.=20 And there is a manual somewhere also. WHICH WILL HELP IF YOU FORGOT x_edit COMMANDS =20 =20 Roc=20 =20 _____=20=20 From: Rocky [mailto:[email protected]]=20 Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 17:04=20 To: '[email protected]' Subject: RE: [H390-VM] Re: using EDIT =20 Well two issues here. =20 First to Louis's question..=20 Others, have used it pretty transparently, by just typing GCIC on the command line in their user machine. All the acceses were supposed to have been set up.=20 =20 I am guessing that you tried to go into the GCIC machine which is not necessary. =20 For Kevarron=85. =20 Ahhhhh --- Because I wrote it for VM =96 Where X-EDIT rules. =20 Anyway for these editors, it would be going farrrrrrrrrr to compare them t= o full X-edit or ISPF EDIT functionality. They are just functional editors =96 and resemble remotely X-EDIT more than they resemble remotely ISPF EDIT. =20 For instance the CC and MM, C & M commands use P&F for the target positio= n as in X-EDIT instead of B&A as in ISPF (easily changeable but that's the default) The Cut and PASTE function is Like ISPF instead of the GET and PUT they use in X-EDIT=85. =20 Its GCIC or GEDIT, not one of the other ones. So it does what it does. =20 You should not have any problem with that logic as you also do what you do, and then rationalize it by saying what you do is better. J =20 Btw the way way back when I started, and I was looking for input on what to do --- You said ,(I can probably find the E-mail), It will be enough if it can edit a 30 line rexx exec. We are way past that =20 Roc =20 =20 =20 _____=20=20 From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of kerravon86 Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 15:33=20 To: [email protected] Subject: [H390-VM] Re: using EDIT =20 =20=20 XEDIT must be one weird editor! Rocky, why didn't you clone ISPF instead of XEDIT? Louis, to answer your original question, just type in "help edit". Note also that "help cmscmds" is available too (and is suggested as part of the logon screens). BFN. Paul. --- In [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> , "millon louis" <louis@...> wrote: > > Hi >=20 >=20 >=20 > I tried to use GCIC and got >=20 >=20 >=20 > gcic vm50 direct=20 >=20 > OPEN ERROR CODE '04' ON 'SYSIN0 '.=20 >=20 > GSVC001 CANNOT OPEN THE MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > PARAMTER TABLES INSTALLED=20 >=20 > NOW INSTALLING GSVC=20 >=20 > STORAGE INSTALLED=20 >=20 > GSVC00 GETVIS INSTALLED=20 >=20 > GSVCS01 CONSOLE HAS BEEN SET TO UPPERCASE TRANSLATION=20 >=20 > SVC INSTALLED=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > CIC000 ROCCIC INTERFACE NOW STARTED=20 >=20 > CIC001 ROCCIC INTERFACE WILL EXPIRE DEC. 31,2099=20 >=20 > CIC001 CONTACT R.O.C. REPRESENTATIVE FOR ASSISTANCE=20 >=20 > CIC002 ONE SECOND TASK NOW ATTACHED=20 >=20 > MESSAGE 0013 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE=20 >=20 > DETACHING OPERATOR CONSOLE=20 >=20 > DISCONNECT AT 12:50:44 GMT TUESDAY 11/30/10=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Louis=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > De : [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> ] De la part de > Rocky > Envoy=E9 : mardi 30 novembre 2010 10:49 > =C0 : [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com>=20 > Objet : RE: [H390-VM] using EDIT >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Try the GCIC editor =96 It is fairly similar to X-edit. >=20 > Included on the latest release. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Roc >=20 >=20 >=20 > _____=20 >=20 > From: [email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> [mailto:[email protected] <mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of > millon louis > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:56=20 > To: Vm group > Subject: [H390-VM] using EDIT >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 > Since many years I use XEDIT and with VM/370 I have to use EDIT. Where ca= n I > find a documentation. >=20 >=20 >=20 > Louis > ------=_NextPart_001_003A_01CB90F0.DB17C530 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN" "http://www.w3.org/TR/htm= l4/strict.dtd"> <html> <head> </head> <body style=3D"background-color: #fff;"> <span style=3D"display:none"> </span> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlStartT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg" style=3D"position:relative;"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg" style=3D"z-index: 1;"> <!--~-|**|PrettyHtmlEndT|**|-~--> <div id=3D"ygrp-text" > =20=20=20=20=20=20 =20=20=20=20=20=20 <p> <div class=3D"Section1"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;">Roc<o></o></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;"><o> </o></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;">After some tests everithing is right.<o></o></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;">Thanks a lot<o></o></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;"><o> </o></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;">Louis<o></o></span></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span lang=3D"EN-US" style=3D"font-size:11.0pt;color= :#1F497D;"><o> </o></span></p> <div> <div style=3D"border-top:solid #B5C4DF 1.0pt;"> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">De :</span= ></b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] <b>De la part de</b> Rocky<br> <b>Envoy=E9 :</b> mardi 30 novembre 2010 16:23<br> <b>=C0 :</b> [email protected]; millon louis<br> <b>Objet :</b> RE: [H390-VM] Re: using EDIT<o></o></span></p> </div> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><o> </o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o></o></p> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg"> <div id=3D"ygrp-text"> <div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Louis -= --</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Whoops just reread what you wrote….</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">The command you have to give I believe is RUNGCIC ---- That's the EXEC th= at does the FILEDEFS and starts GCIC.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Your machine will automatically Disconnect.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Then DI= AL into your machine again.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">You wil= l get a Password screen --- Try using MAINT CPCMS or if you have problems wit= h that look at the exec and it will show the FILEDEF with the password file</= span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">THESE A= RE NOT NECESSARILY THE REAL PASSWORDS IN THE vm DIRECTORY.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">From th= ere on its straight forward. </span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">And the= re is a manual somewhere also. WHICH WILL HELP IF YOU FORGOT x_edit COMM= ANDS</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Roc </s= pan><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <div style=3D"border-right:solid blue 1.5pt;"> <div> <div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;"> <hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center"> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b= ><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> Rocky [mailto:[email protected]] <br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 30, 2010 17:04 <br> <b>To:</b> '[email protected]'<br> <b>Subject:</b> RE: [H390-VM] Re: using EDIT</span><o></o></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Well tw= o issues here.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">First t= o Louis's question.. </span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Others, have used it pretty transparently, by just typing GCIC on the command line in their user machine.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">All the acceses were supposed to have been set up. </span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">I am guessing that you tried to go into the GCIC machine which is not necessary.= </span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">For Kevarron….</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Ahhhhh = --- Because I wrote it for VM – Where X-EDIT rules.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Anyway = for these editors, it would be going farrrrrrrrrr to compare them to full X-edit or ISPF EDIT functionality.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">They ar= e just functional editors – and resemble remotely X-EDIT more than they= resemble remotely ISPF EDIT.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">For instance the CC and MM, C & M commands use P&F for the target position as in X-EDIT instead of B&A as in ISPF (easily changeable but that's the default)</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">The Cut and PASTE function is Like ISPF instead of the GET and PUT they use in X-ED= IT….</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Its GCI= C or GEDIT, not one of the other ones. So it does what it does.</span><o></o>= </p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">You sho= uld not have any problem with that logic as you also do what you do, and then rationalize it by saying what you do is better.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Wingding= s;color:navy;">J</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Btw the way way back when I started, and I was looking for input on what to do --- = You said ,(I can probably find the E-mail), It will be enough if it can edit a = 30 line rexx exec.</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">We are = way past that</span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;">Roc</sp= an><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;color:navy;"> <= /span><o></o></p> <div style=3D"border-left:solid blue 1.5pt;"> <div> <div class=3D"MsoNormal" align=3D"center" style=3D"text-align:center;"> <hr size=3D"2" width=3D"100%" align=3D"center"> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"><b><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;">From:</span></b= ><span style=3D"font-size:10.0pt;"> [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] <b>On Behalf Of </b>kerravon86<br> <b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 30, 2010 15:33 <br> <b>To:</b> [email protected]<br> <b>Subject:</b> [H390-VM] Re: using EDIT</span><o></o></p> </div> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o></o></p> <p class=3D"MsoNormal"> <o></o></p> <div id=3D"ygrp-mlmsg"> <div id=3D"ygrp-msg"> <div id=3D"ygrp-text"> <p>XEDIT must be one weird editor!<br> <br> Rocky, why didn't you clone ISPF instead of XEDIT?<br> <br> Louis, to answer your original question, just<br> type in "help edit". Note also that "help cmscmds"<br> is available too (and is suggested as part of the<br> logon screens).<br> <br> BFN. Paul.<br> <br> --- In <a href=3D"mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]= </a>, "millon louis" <louis@...> wrote:<br> ><br> > Hi<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > I tried to use GCIC and got<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > gcic vm50 direct <br> > <br> > OPEN ERROR CODE '04' ON 'SYSIN0 '. <br> > <br> > GSVC001 CANNOT OPEN THE MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > PARAMTER TABLES INSTALLED <br> > <br> > NOW INSTALLING GSVC <br> > <br> > STORAGE INSTALLED <br> > <br> > GSVC00 GETVIS INSTALLED <br> > <br> > GSVCS01 CONSOLE HAS BEEN SET TO UPPERCASE TRANSLATION <br> > <br> > SVC INSTALLED <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0014 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > CIC000 ROCCIC INTERFACE NOW STARTED <br> > <br> > CIC001 ROCCIC INTERFACE WILL EXPIRE DEC. 31,2099 <br> > <br> > CIC001 CONTACT R.O.C. REPRESENTATIVE FOR ASSISTANCE <br> > <br> > CIC002 ONE SECOND TASK NOW ATTACHED <br> > <br> > MESSAGE 0013 NOT FOUND IN MESSAGE FILE <br> > <br> > DETACHING OPERATOR CONSOLE <br> > <br> > DISCONNECT AT 12:50:44 GMT TUESDAY 11/30/10 <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > Louis <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > De : <a href=3D"mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com">H390-VM@yahoogroups.= com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com">H390-VM-hHKSG33Tihh9OS/[email protected]= m</a>] De la part de<br> > Rocky<br> > Envoy=E9 : mardi 30 novembre 2010 10:49<br> > =C0 : <a href=3D"mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com">H390-VM@yahoogroups= .com</a><br> > Objet : RE: [H390-VM] using EDIT<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > Try the GCIC editor – It is fairly similar to X-edit.<br> > <br> > Included on the latest release.<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > Roc<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > _____ <br> > <br> > From: <a href=3D"mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com">H390-VM@yahoogroups= .com</a> [mailto:<a href=3D"mailto:H390-VM%40yahoogroups.com">H390-VM-hHKSG33Tihh9OS/[email protected]= m</a>] On Behalf Of<br> > millon louis<br> > Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2010 10:56 <br> > To: Vm group<br> > Subject: [H390-VM] using EDIT<br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > <br> > Since many years I use XEDIT and with VM/370 I have to use EDIT. 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