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--- In [email protected], "Kevin Leonard" <kl_j76@...> wrote:
<--snip-->
>
> Let us know about anything you encounter using JES3. Up to this
> point, we really haven't had an experienced JES3 person exercising
> the JES3 environment. I've been filling that role by default; I'm a
> retired JES2 system programmer who got fascinated by JES3. Whatever
> is broken, I probably had something to do with us. When you find
> something that doesn't work, or have a suggestion on how we could
> do it better, let us know. Hercules is a learning experience for
> all of us.
I wouldn't exactly call myself an expert. I was a PL/1 and COBOL applicati=
on programmer with a small amount of assembler experience in a large JES3 s=
hop, but being me, I couldn't help but delve a bit deeper into how the whol=
e thing worked. I was the sort of child parents dread, always taking thing=
s apart to find out how they worked! As a result, I have a lot of theoreti=
cal knowledge, but not much in the way of hands on experience! I am very in=
terested in getting this working right though and so I am planning to learn=
as much as I can in what little free time I've got.
"Playing with my toys", is what my other half calls it and there's always m=
ore important stuff to do!
> > I added a 3270 at 00C6 (the JES3 console as I knew from my
> > previous experience) and a 1403 at 030F (again I knew from
> > previous experience JES3 would look for it).
>=20
> We did, I think, pretty much decide that the JES3 display console
> is supposed to be at 014. The existing TK3 system didn't have a
> UCB there, so we ended up borrowing one of the VTAM 3277 addresses.
> The TK3 update system I'm looking at does have 014; if yours does,
> you could move the JES3 console from 0C6 to 014.
>=20
> Addresses for the MLOG printer and JES3 procedure "JES3OUT"
> printer have gotten moved around by non-JES3 requirements. I
> think I finally gave up trying to use the 30x range; in my personal
> JES3 system, I've moved MLOG to 31E and JES3OUT to 31F, but those
> assignments have never been implemented in the TK system and the
> TK3 update system I'm looking at doesn't have UCBs generated for
> those devices. Until that happens, 30F is probably going to have
> to do.
>=20
One of the things on my to do list is to examine the defined devices. I wa=
nt to add more DASD and need to know where I can put them. 014 does seem l=
ike a better place for the JES3 console than up with the user terminals. I=
f I find that 014 is defined correctly, I will move it. I'll have a look a=
t the printer situation. It appears to me that in the TK3 update 31E is ML=
OG and 31F is JESOUT.
I have also noticed that there is one tape drive in the config file on 420,=
but JES3IN00 has tape devices declared at 400 thru 40F, so I need to check=
this out and amend accordingly.
> I don't know if you've gotten far enough to think about the
> possibilities of a multi-system JES3 complex. Unfortunately,
> right now Hercules CTC support isn't robust enough to meet JES3
> requirements. That's on the list of desirable features to add,
> and has been for a while. I have built a functional complex using
> guest machines under VM with JES3 global, JES3 local and ASP real
> main, so when Hercules supports it we can do it.
This is a big shame. It was my intention to run a complex with at least tw=
o mains. Is the problem with the CTC documented anywhere? Do we know if a=
nyone is actively looking at it as part of the ongoing development?
Regards
Simon
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--- In <a href="mailto:turnkey-mvs%40yahoogroups.com">[email protected]</a>, "Kevin Leonard" <kl_j76@...> wrote:<br>
<--snip--><br>
><br>
> Let us know about anything you encounter using JES3. Up to this<br>
> point, we really haven't had an experienced JES3 person exercising<br>
> the JES3 environment. I've been filling that role by default; I'm a<br>
> retired JES2 system programmer who got fascinated by JES3. Whatever<br>
> is broken, I probably had something to do with us. When you find<br>
> something that doesn't work, or have a suggestion on how we could<br>
> do it better, let us know. Hercules is a learning experience for<br>
> all of us.<br>
<br>
I wouldn't exactly call myself an expert. I was a PL/1 and COBOL application programmer with a small amount of assembler experience in a large JES3 shop, but being me, I couldn't help but delve a bit deeper into how the whole thing worked. I was the sort of child parents dread, always taking things apart to find out how they worked! As a result, I have a lot of theoretical knowledge, but not much in the way of hands on experience! I am very interested in getting this working right though and so I am planning to learn as much as I can in what little free time I've got.<br>
<br>
"Playing with my toys", is what my other half calls it and there's always more important stuff to do!<br>
<br>
> > I added a 3270 at 00C6 (the JES3 console as I knew from my<br>
> > previous experience) and a 1403 at 030F (again I knew from<br>
> > previous experience JES3 would look for it).<br>
> <br>
> We did, I think, pretty much decide that the JES3 display console<br>
> is supposed to be at 014. The existing TK3 system didn't have a<br>
> UCB there, so we ended up borrowing one of the VTAM 3277 addresses.<br>
> The TK3 update system I'm looking at does have 014; if yours does,<br>
> you could move the JES3 console from 0C6 to 014.<br>
> <br>
> Addresses for the MLOG printer and JES3 procedure "JES3OUT"<br>
> printer have gotten moved around by non-JES3 requirements. I<br>
> think I finally gave up trying to use the 30x range; in my personal<br>
> JES3 system, I've moved MLOG to 31E and JES3OUT to 31F, but those<br>
> assignments have never been implemented in the TK system and the<br>
> TK3 update system I'm looking at doesn't have UCBs generated for<br>
> those devices. Until that happens, 30F is probably going to have<br>
> to do.<br>
> <br>
One of the things on my to do list is to examine the defined devices. I want to add more DASD and need to know where I can put them. 014 does seem like a better place for the JES3 console than up with the user terminals. If I find that 014 is defined correctly, I will move it. I'll have a look at the printer situation. It appears to me that in the TK3 update 31E is MLOG and 31F is JESOUT.<br>
<br>
I have also noticed that there is one tape drive in the config file on 420, but JES3IN00 has tape devices declared at 400 thru 40F, so I need to check this out and amend accordingly.<br>
<br>
> I don't know if you've gotten far enough to think about the<br>
> possibilities of a multi-system JES3 complex. Unfortunately,<br>
> right now Hercules CTC support isn't robust enough to meet JES3<br>
> requirements. That's on the list of desirable features to add,<br>
> and has been for a while. I have built a functional complex using<br>
> guest machines under VM with JES3 global, JES3 local and ASP real<br>
> main, so when Hercules supports it we can do it.<br>
<br>
This is a big shame. It was my intention to run a complex with at least two mains. Is the problem with the CTC documented anywhere? Do we know if anyone is actively looking at it as part of the ongoing development?<br>
<br>
Regards<br>
<br>
Simon<br>
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width: 72px;
}
#photos div div {
border: 1px solid #666666;
height: 62px;
overflow: hidden;
width: 62px;
}
#photos div label {
color: #666666;
font-size: 10px;
overflow: hidden;
text-align: center;
white-space: nowrap;
width: 64px;
}
#reco-category {
font-size: 77%;
}
#reco-desc {
font-size: 77%;
}
.replbq {
margin: 4px;
}
#ygrp-actbar div a:first-child {
/* border-right: 0px solid #000;*/
margin-right: 2px;
padding-right: 5px;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg {
font-size: 13px;
font-family: Arial, helvetica,clean, sans-serif;
*font-size: small;
*font: x-small;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg table {
font-size: inherit;
font: 100%;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg select, input, textarea {
font: 99% Arial, Helvetica, clean, sans-serif;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg pre, code {
font:115% monospace;
*font-size:100%;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg * {
line-height: 1.22em;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg #logo {
padding-bottom: 10px;
}
#ygrp-mlmsg a {
color: #1E66AE;
}
#ygrp-msg p a {
font-family: Verdana;
}
#ygrp-msg p#attach-count span {
color: #1E66AE;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco #reco-head {
color: #ff7900;
font-weight: 700;
}
#ygrp-reco {
margin-bottom: 20px;
padding: 0px;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li a {
font-size: 130%;
text-decoration: none;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov li {
font-size: 77%;
list-style-type: square;
padding: 6px 0;
}
#ygrp-sponsor #ov ul {
margin: 0;
padding: 0 0 0 8px;
}
#ygrp-text {
font-family: Georgia;
}
#ygrp-text p {
margin: 0 0 1em 0;
}
#ygrp-text tt {
font-size: 120%;
}
#ygrp-vital ul li:last-child {
border-right: none !important;
}
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