RE: Wine versions + future

> On May 16, 2002 09:46 am, Patrik Stridvall wrote:
> >
> > That depends on what you mean works.
> >
> 
> Patrick,
> 
> In the name of all that is good, don't start again!
> This sort of discussion (i.e. 'it is possible that the earth will
> explode', 'it depends on what you mean by <insert obvious term>',
> etc, etc, ad nauseaum) just gets me to climb the walls.
> 
> I mean, how many times do we have to have this silly discussions
> where we're going around in circles about technical definitions
> of obvious terms, just for the purpose of arguing something?
>
> I'm really sorry, but I had to say this.

There is no reason to be sorry. I'm not.

> And I'll explain why 
> 'it works'
> was obviously unambiguous in this context.

If you define thing that only works short term as working perhaps,
but I do not.
 
> Context: The proponents of the LGPL wanted a switch to that
> license because, they argued, it would result in more patches
> going into Wine from commercial companies. The TG people,
> among others, did not want to switch for the *exact* reason.
> That is, that the LGPL will force them to release more stuff
> to the public tree than they wanted to.
> 
> Problem: Someone said that the LGPL worked, because it resulted
> in more patches to the public tree.
>
> Which you seem to agree with, but than argue that it did not work,
> somehow, because those patches were forced out of TG. 

A sidenote: This have not happend quite yet and it 
will not happend since the trade was rejected.

> But you
> know what -- this *is* included in the above definition for 
> 'it works'!
> 
> Please!

If you are freezing to death setting your self on fire will only
help temporarily before you burn to death.

Seriously. The point is that squeeze to much patches out of
companies like Transgaming they might not be able to take it
and might go bankrupt for example or they might leave the
Wine project and continue alone.

Even worse companies that might invest in Wine might not care
to if the feel the license can't give then return on investment.
It is as simple as that.

Look it is almost the same thing as if a country have very high taxes.
A specific company might not invest in a country if he doesn't feel that
the high taxes gives anything like a higher educated, motivated employess.
So sure some companies will invest but it will be fewer, and a more
specialize
sort of companies that cares about the benefits a high tax country, good 
infrastructure, high eduction popoluation etc.

The fact that a country can say double the taxes and a sufficient number
of companies remains that more money are paid in total taxes short term
doesn't mean it would be a good idea long term. Some companies might have
high investments in non-movable property that they can't leave just like
that, but you can be sure many will eventually. The longterm it is not
a good idea.

This might be the situation Transgaming is in. The have trouble moving
because of their previous investments. So works remains to be seen.
They might as well stop cooperating with Wine at all and continue
on their own. Most games doesn't use many non-DirectX Windows API anyway.