RE: WineX and the AFPL

> Patrik Stridvall <[email protected]> writes:
> 
> > Sure in the case of Wine patches it could be a connection.
> > But it is be up to YOU to prove it. Not I.
> > 
> > In any case one thing that indicates that it might not be so is
> > that most developers have giving permission to Rewind to use their
> > code and thus they still effectively use the X11 license.
> > 
> > So I think you have to find the reason for the increase elsewhere.
> 
> Well, I can give you a couple of reasons:
> 
> First I have been able to merge all the LGPL code from Crossover
> Office (approx. 700Kb of diffs); this couldn't have been merged into
> an X11 tree.
> 
> Second, all the dll separation and related stuff that I did can be
> directly traced to the license change. It's stuff that needed doing
> for a long time, but it's not the most exciting thing to do and I
> simply couldn't find the motivation anymore to do it under an X11
> license, for all the reasons I have already explained.

When I said that I have the a feeling there have been more patches
the last year than the year before I wasn't refering to work you
you have done (yourself or merged from Crosover Office). But,
yes, I have notice you have made more patches yourself.

I just have a feeling that a lot more people post patches occationly
and in greater numbers. However I had this feeling the months before
the license change as well.

But yes obvious people in favour of the LGPL is more likely to post
patches, but that is not a very intresting conclusion. It is 
rather obvious isn't it?
 
> Given that there is no evidence whatsoever that the LGPL has caused
> harm (and no, Transgaming hasn't stopped contributing as you seem to
> think, they have submitted some patches since the change), 

I haven't checked but are you sure this was really Transgaming patches
not just patches from people happing to work at Transgaming?

I any case I have a distinct feeling that that are much fewer
and further in between.

> I think
> it's a reasonable conclusion to say that 3 months after the change the
> LGPL has already helped Wine a good deal. No it's not a mathematical
> proof, so feel free to continue denying it if that makes you happy.

As I said above I don't count what you or Codeweaver have done because
of the license change since you proposed it and support it so it 
kind of obvious that it might have effected you.

As for what others (except Transgaming) have done I have seen little
difference that are likely to be because of the license change.

However what worries me most is not that have happend but what might
not have happend because the license change. That is the prime reason
I'm against it.