Re: Measuring intrinsic value

Brett Glass wrote:

>At 10:15 PM 4/14/2002, Anthony Taylor wrote:
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>>Whatever.  I gave you an objective yardstick.
>>
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>It's not objective in the least.
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>>It works, and is effectively used to measure many intangibles, such as development methodologies and management practices.
>>
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>Not so. Development methodologies and management practices have
>no "intrinsic" value either.
>
>--Brett
>
>
Brent:

Cut the crap, Intrinsic means the attribute exists without relation to 
another object  Intrinsic values exist as an aspect of a thing without 
relation to the person doing the valuing (puting the price on it)

Here is a little lesson on economy 102 for you.  What you think of when 
you talk an economy is how many dollars are moved around from one pocket 
to another. as Anthony has pointed out before this is not all that is 
involved in an economy.  What a product sells for is an indicator,   
just as the average income per household or the gross national product 
are indicators.


A stable government is a big contributor to a healthy economy,  A 
corrupt govornment can be as devastating to a a country's economy as a 
drought.  Every four years I see the US economy stumble as the American 
public elect a new leader.  In Canada the economy took a huge nose dive 
when Quebec had their Referendum(s).  Head offices moved from Quebec to 
othe provinces. The economy in Quebec is poorer for for it.  A stable 
well run goverment is an asset to an economy, it has an intrinsic worth.


The wheel  and rivers have an intrinsic value when it comes to 
economies. A country without a seaport will (usually) have a poorer 
economy than a country with one,  Why are most important city built on 
rivers? How much is a river worth?  Try to find a major city without one.


Other factors that contribute to a healthy economy include a well 
educated population,  a stable climate and a well developed 
transportation infrastructure. There are others thing that help to a 
lesser or greater extent like freedom of information (freedom of the 
press), clean water,  breathable air, beautifull scenery. All these 
thing have intrinsic value.  


Freely avalilable software will still have an intrisic value regardless 
of what you think.


If you want to ague about something don't ague about what makes up an 
economy or what comprises intrinsic value. You don't seem to have a good 
handle on either one.


Tony Lambregts