Re: improved identification of non-targets

Phillip Hallam-Baker <[email protected]> Mon, 13 Jan 2020 11:36:21 -0500
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There is a large body of work looking at identification of aerial drones.
And it is a tough problem because many of them have really limited power
etc. Do one public key operation on certain systems and 10% of the battery
life just went.

If you want to get anywhere on the airline problem, the first thing you
need to do is to get all the parties to agree there is a problem and
establish a new set of international norms to cover drones, etc. And that
is really hard because neither Iran, Russia nor the US wants to really own
the fact that they have shot down a civilian airliner.

Reagan never apologized for shooting down Iran Air Flight 655, he should
have. But did not. Russia is still denying shooting down Malaysia Airlines
Flight 17 and is aggressively circulating conspiracy rumours online and
through their various disinfo channels (RT, Mint Press News, Alex Jones,
etc.).

Iran is actually the first country to apologize for this type of act and
the reason it did is that the government is divided between an elected
civil government and a theocratic dictatorship. And the dictatorship knows
that they can't expect to keep the information suppressed because the civil
government will out them.

The proximate reason that the flight was shot down was of course the US use
of force killing a top Iranian general in Iraq. Should Trump pardon himself
for his multiple US crimes he can always be extradited to Iraq to stand
trial for the murder. But the much deeper reason for the shoot down was
forty years of 'Death to America' chants in Iran. And now the price of
those chants is being recognized.

This might be the event that causes the Iranian revolution to enter its
thermidorian phase.

There is at this point absolutely no prospect of any new international
norms being established in the technical space. Russia views its cyber and
parapsychology units as its edge. China is embarked on a new red terror
against its muslim minority. A change in US leadership is a necessary but
not a sufficient condition.


[1] http://stopfake.org/en/putin-s-paid-and-unpaid-liars/
[At this point, it is obvious Alex Jones ain't making money the way he
claims. So why assume he is unpaid?]

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 to get all the parties to agree there is a problem and establish a new set=
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ize:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:small"=
>The proximate reason that the flight was shot down was of course the US us=
e of force killing a top Iranian general in Iraq. Should Trump pardon himse=
lf for his multiple US crimes he can always be extradited to Iraq to stand =
trial for the murder. But the much deeper reason for the shoot down was for=
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ter its thermidorian phase.</div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font=
-size:small"><br></div><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:smal=
l">There is at this point absolutely no prospect of any new international n=
orms being established in the technical space. Russia views its cyber and p=
arapsychology units as its edge. China is embarked on a new red terror agai=
nst its muslim minority. A change in US leadership is a necessary but not a=
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ult" style=3D"font-size:small">[At this point, it is obvious Alex Jones ain=
&#39;t making money the way he claims. So why assume he is unpaid?]</div></=
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