Re: improved identification of non-targets

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On 1/12/20 3:20 PM, Jerry Leichter wrote:

>
> >> Anyone shooting down such a plane, or a combatant broadcasting such
> >> a signal, would be committing a war crime.
>

I'm a little late to the party here, but lets remember that 'false flag'
operations
are an accepted part of war, and not a war crime as long as they are used to
get close to the enemy. Its expected that combatants will show their true
colors before actually engaging in combat.

In the past, aircraft were expected NOT to do this, because of the
impracticality
of changing paint jobs as they enter combat. Not that that stopped anyone -
the
Wikipedia page for 'false flag' starts with a photo of a US plane in Cuban
livery
prior to the Bay of Pigs.

Electronic IFF systems could - perfectly legally - identify as anything
they
want up until they release weapons. Use of stolen IFF gear and codes,
real time retransmission of another plane's signal, or radio silence, or
jamming are not war crimes.

The people in charge of the Ukranian flight should have recognized that
just hours after attacking US bases, the airspace over Iran was dangerous,
and not flown.

Peter Trei

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<div dir=3D"ltr"><br></div><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On 1/12/20 3:20 P=
M, Jerry Leichter wrote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"marg=
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&gt;&gt; Anyone shooting down such a plane, or a combatant broadcasting suc=
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&gt;&gt; a signal, would be committing a war crime.<br></blockquote><div>=
=C2=A0</div><div>I&#39;m a little late to the party here, but lets remember=
 that &#39;false flag&#39; operations</div><div>are an accepted part of war=
, and not a war crime as long as they are used to</div><div>get close to th=
e enemy. Its expected that combatants will show their true <br></div><div>c=
olors before actually engaging in combat.</div><div><br></div><div>In the p=
ast, aircraft were expected NOT to do this, because of the impracticality</=
div><div>of changing paint jobs as they enter combat. Not that that stopped=
 anyone - the</div><div>Wikipedia page for &#39;false flag&#39; starts with=
 a photo of a US plane in Cuban livery</div><div>prior to the Bay of Pigs.<=
/div><div><br></div><div>Electronic IFF systems could - perfectly legally -=
 identify as anything they <br></div><div>want up until they release weapon=
s. Use of stolen IFF gear and codes, <br></div><div>real time retransmissio=
n of another plane&#39;s signal, or radio silence, or</div><div>jamming are=
 not war crimes.</div><div><br></div><div>The people in charge of the Ukran=
ian flight should have recognized that</div><div>just hours after attacking=
 US bases, the airspace over Iran was dangerous,</div><div>and not flown.</=
div><div><br></div><div>Peter Trei</div></div>

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