Re: Post-quantum defaults
"Robert J. Hansen via Gnupg-users" <[email protected]> Mon, 6 Apr 2026 16:40:22 -0400
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> Can you elaborate on why you think this is the right time to do so? My three pillars are the difficulty of accumulating a large enough ensemble; the difficulty of quantum error correction; and the general inefficiency of quantum computers. These are all to some degree interconnected. For instance, there's a theoretical minimum of 5n+1 qubits necessary to break RSA-n, but at our current level of engineering it requires orders of magnitude more. That's an inefficiency problem that runs into "so, how do you plan to get that many qubits anyway?" (large ensemble problem) and "how do you plan on doing error correction on that huge ensemble?" (error correction). Well, there's been some news there. From Google [1]: Specifically, we have compiled two quantum circuits (a sequence of quantum gates) that implement Shor's algorithm for ECDLP-256: one that uses less than 1,200 logical qubits and 90 million Toffoli gates and one that uses less than 1,450 logical qubits and 70 million Toffoli gates. We estimate that these circuits can be executed on a superconducting qubit CRQC with fewer than 500,000 physical qubits in a few minutes, given standard assumptions about hardware capabilities that are consistent with some of Google’s flagship quantum processors. This is an approximately 20-fold reduction in the number of physical qubits required to solve ECDLP-256 and a continuation of a long history of gradual optimization in compiling quantum algorithms to fault- tolerant circuits. Well. That's … impressive. A twentyfold reduction is scary because it says they're on to a good method and this is just the beginning. There are some serious cracks showing. But wait, 500,000 physical qubits? That's ... we can still take some reassurance from that, right? Maybe.[2] Cain, Xu, King, et al., just a few days later showed that maybe it can be done in 10,000 physical qubits. Serious cracks, indeed. It's not worth panicking over: I give a low probability these will turn into real attacks any time in the next few years. But I do think we'll all be using post-quantum algorithms around 2030, and for a lot of us, the time to start making that transition is today. [1] https://research.google/blog/safeguarding-cryptocurrency-by-disclosing-quantum-vulnerabilities-responsibly/ [2] https://arxiv.org/abs/2603.28627 _______________________________________________ Gnupg-users mailing list [email protected] https://lists.gnupg.org/mailman/listinfo/gnupg-users
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