Re: hey, remember the platform?

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On Thursday 30 June 2005 07:31, Jeff Waugh wrote:
> <quote who=3D"Chris Lee">
>
> > We're not putting things in the platform in order to evangelize them.
> > We're simply collecting things in the platform that are *already* used =
by
> > the majority of the desktop projects - Mozilla, OpenOffice.org, KDE,
> > GNOME, etc - and saying "These projects work well with this collection =
of
> > software, and these versions of the projects comprise version X.Y of the
> > fd.o Platform."
>
> Hrm, note that Cairo is in use by the majority of desktop projects. I'm n=
ot

would you care to list which desktop projects these are, what cairo's role =
in=20
them is and what versions have shipped with Cairo?

AFAIK, the Gtk+ 2.8 will use it, thought that hasn't been release yet (2.7 =
was=20
released on Jun 20?).
the to be released GNOME 2.10 may use Gtk+ 2.8, but that might wait for 2.1=
2?
Cairo is being experimented with in OpenOffice (Meeks is doing/leading much=
 of=20
that?)
there's an option Cairo back end to Mozilla.org's optional and in-progress =
SVG=20
support.

what am i missing or have gotten wrong in the above list? because given tha=
t=20
list, not one major desktop project has released production software uses=20
Cairo, and Gtk+ seems to be the on most committed to it (and by extension=20
GNOME).

and in that list, two of those projects are applications, not desktops envs=
=2E=20
given that, should we line up all desktop application software and see how =
it=20
shakes out? hrm.

so what impact does this have on the platform?

given that cairo is pretty youthful code (many will tell you that the API=20
needs help) that is not used in any stable shipping product that i know of =
i=20
don't think rushing it into an FD.o blessed platform is particularly useful.

then again, as being in a project that has examined cairo and is not curren=
tly=20
using it with no concrete plans to ever use it at this point, such a decisi=
on=20
really doesn't impact on me other than to guage the relevance of the "FD.o=
=20
platform" to me, my software and those who build on top of it and to guage=
=20
the point and purpose of the excercise here.

=2D-=20
Aaron J. Seigo
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