Re: what do you use for replacing all (or parts) of XFree86-clients?

Jim Gettys <[email protected]> Tue, 03 Feb 2004 20:23:35 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.freedesktop.xlibs.general
Organization HP Labs, Cambridge Research Laboratory
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Tue, 2004-02-03 at 19:46, Jeremy C. Reed wrote:
> On Tue, 3 Feb 2004, Jim Gettys wrote:
> 
> > You are more than welcome to autotool any of the clients.
> >
> > The caveat is that we don't want anything we aren't planning
> > to actively support, so if you touch it, you are stuck with it
> > until/unless you identify someone else to be the tar baby....
> 
> I consider some as essential -- unless we know of alternatives.
> 
> xrdb

Needed.
> 
> xset

Needed.

> 
> mkfontdir

Some of us think it isn't needed ;-).  But most will believe
it is needed.

> 
> xdm

Low priority: there is kdm/gdm.

> 
> xdpyinfo
> 

Needed.

> xev
> 

Useful debugging tool.

> xfontsel and xlsfonts
> 

Some of us think these don't matter any more ;-).

> xhost / xauth

Needed.

> 
> xlsclients (and maybe xlsatoms)
> 

Needed.

> xwininfo
> 

Needed.

> xmessage

Various desktops often have better.

> 
> xvidtune

Needed.

> 
> xwd/xwud

Desktops have better screen dump tools; low priority.


> xkill

Needed.

> 
> oclock or xclock (I see is in xapps project already.)

Keithp has a fdclock, which is studly alpha-blended....
Not clear we need to bother with clock.

> 
> Where do you get your xset? xev? etc?
> 
> > There is an xapps project established already, for those clients
> > we've done so far.
> 
> Okay, I found http://xapps.freedesktop.org/.
> 
> But no link to it from http://www.freedesktop.org/Software/Home . I may
> set myself up with a Twiki registration for this. Is it okay if I add it
> to that Software/Home page?
> 

Go right ahead.

> Also, is there any download site for tar balls for these xapps?

Not yet.  Also, go right ahead.

> 
> Also is there a fonts project for the XFree86 xc/fonts ?

Not that I know of; this is also sorely needed.  But the
big job is to subsume all the bitmap fonts into Truetype
fonts, rather than a blind conversion of the current stuff.
Talk to Keith about this.


> 
>    Jeremy C. Reed
>    http://www.reedmedia.net/
> 
> p.s. I need to look closer on how FreeBSD ports accomplishes this.
-- 
Jim Gettys <[email protected]>
HP Labs, Cambridge Research Laboratory