Re: sim: replacing ChangeLog files with online git logs

Mike Frysinger via Gdb <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gdb.devel
Message-ID <YFq11NG0mtkGAToY@vapier>
On 23 Mar 2021 11:06, Andrew Burgess wrote:
> Mike Frysinger <[email protected]> [2021-03-23 01:05:52 -0400]:
> > On 17 Mar 2021 15:14, Eli Zaretskii wrote:
> > > From: Mike Frysinger <[email protected]>
> > > > > That's a different conclusions.  You asked what people are doing with
> > > > > the ChangeLogs, not whether it was mandatory to keep them.
> > > > 
> > > > that's fair.  my point/goal was that if there aren't requirements for it,
> > > > and there isn't a compelling use case for keeping them, then the easiest
> > > > thing is to do nothing and delete them.
> > > > 
> > > > it seems that there isn't a requirement ->
> > > 
> > > Indeed, there's no mandatory requirement to keep the files, not
> > > anymore.
> > > 
> > > > i'm skeptical that the logs add value as anyone who is going to contribute
> > > > by diving into the source history would be online w/git access ->
> > > > we punt the logs and stop wasting lots of developer time.
> > > 
> > > I'm not sure I agree with your skepticism.  And OTOH, producing the
> > > ChangeLog from Git logs takes mere seconds and wastes no development
> > > time.  So I think on balance there's very little price to pay for
> > > something that some people may value.  Why refuse to pay that small
> > > price and humor those few people?
> > 
> > Andrew: you OK with me merging my patches ?
> > https://sourceware.org/pipermail/gdb-patches/2021-January/174894.html
> > https://sourceware.org/pipermail/gdb-patches/2021-January/174895.html
> > 
> > i feel like we can & should make progress here: generating the files
> > for release allows us to stop hand writing these entirely.  we can
> > then spend time debating the format (or whether to generate them) and
> > not spend any time on hand writing.
> 
> Sure, if that's what you want, go for it.  I still don't
> see/understand the value of the auto-generated files, but I'm coming
> to the conclusion that I might never understand.

i don't disagree, but i'm trying to make progress without getting stuck
in the same rut we've been for years ;).

Eli: those patches look OK to you too ?
-mike
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