Re: Toolchain Infrastructure project statement of support

On Sun, Oct 23, 2022 at 11:01:34AM -0600, Jeff Law wrote:
>On 10/23/22 10:07, Siddhesh Poyarekar wrote:
>>>If you're trying to suggest that overseers, contrary to our repeated
>>>public statements, wish to block all migration, that is untrue and you
>>>will need to retract this.
>>
>>Here's a more precise statement: Two of the overseers are leaders of
>>projects hosted on sourceware and three overseers (including those two)
>>have stated clearly on multiple occasions that transitioning to LF IT
>>is off the table, effectively announcing their decision on behalf of
>>projects they lead.  It is hence clear that the overseers have
>>effectively blocked full migration of sourceware to LF IT.
>
>They can make those decisions for the projects they lead.  But making
>the decision or setting criteria for other projects is highly
>unreasonable.

This is not, IMO, helping.

On Thu, Oct 13, 2022 at 02:25:29PM -0400, Christopher Faylor wrote:
>We'd like to assure the communities that, when and if any individual
>project formally expresses the decision of their developers to transfer
>their services, we'll endeavor to make the move as smooth as possible.
>Those projects that wish to stay will continue to receive the best
>services that the overseers can offer, with the ongoing assistance of
>Red Hat, the SFC, and, when relevant, the FSF tech team.

We can't help move anyone without first establishing some kind of
criteria.  The only reasonable criteria is a formal request from the
project being moved.

As an exercise in human psychology, these insinuations of anticipated
unhelpfulness *can* eventually be a self-fullfilling prophecy, though.

i.e., if you really do not *want* any help with any transitions of
projects then, just keep implying, despite evidence to the contrary,
that we might be unreasonable jerks.