Re: Setting up names that change with time

Patrice/Dave

Thank you. Having no date for the main entry was the 'problem'.

Thanks
Tony

On Mon, 2022-05-23 at 16:32 -0400, Dave Scheipers wrote:
> One entry users often forget is to set the date information for the
> main Name entry. There is a Place Name Editor icon at the end of the
> field and before the Type field.
> 
> So for Hobart I have:
> 
> Main entry: Hobart after 21 Aug 1842
> Alternative 1: Hobart Town from 1803 to 21 Aug 1842
> Alternative 2: Hobart with no date information
> 
> For Tasmania I have:
> 
> Maine entry: Tasmania after 1 Jan 1901
> Alternate 1: Colony of Tasmania from 1855 to 1 Jan 1901
> Alternate 2: Van Diemen's Land from 1788 to 1855
> Alternate 3: Tasmania with no date information.
> 
> FYI: I got my information from Wikipedia
> 
> Note: I usually add that last Alternative entry with no dates to
> handle an event with no date. In those instances, Gramps will use the
> name option using the earliest possible date. Think what name will
> display on January 1, year 1. So I add that last entry as a fallback
> option.
> 
> Dave
> 
> 
> 
> On Mon, May 23, 2022 at 4:50 AM Tony Gordon <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I am trying to set up my place name hierarchy to capture a
> > community
> > and state that both have changed their name over time. I thought I
> > could do it with the alternative names but I can't seem to get it
> > to
> > work.
> > 
> > The place is now known as Hobart and it is in Tasmania, a state in
> > Australia. Over time it has had a number of names. To keep it
> > simple I
> > want to adopt the following names:
> > Hobart Town, Van Diemen's Land prior to 1856
> > Hobart Town, Tasmania between 1856 and 1880
> > Hobart, Tasmania after 1880
> > 
> > I set up Tasmania with alternative names as follows:
> > Van Diemen's Land - before 1 Jan 1856
> > Tasmania - after 31 Dec 1855
> > and this results in name changes as expected depending on the time
> > of
> > an event.
> > 
> > I have set up Hobart with alternative names as follows:
> > Hobart Town - before 1 Jan 1881
> > Hobart - after 31 Dec 1880
> > This is where my problem is; the name doesn't change with the
> > timing of
> > the event, so e.g. an event in 1835 which should be in Hobart Town
> > still shows as occurring in Hobart.
> > 
> > In Preferences I have the 'Place format (auto place title)'
> > checked,
> > and the 'Date about range' set to 1.
> > 
> > Am I doing something wrong, and if so what?
> > 
> > Gramps 5.1.5 on Fedora Linux.
> > 
> > Thanks
> > Tony
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