RE: Campaign for rejecting Inspire directive?
"michael gould" <[email protected]>
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Benjamin, You have hit upon a concern that has been voiced repeatedly on the EGIP ([email protected]) and other Inspire-related lists. The Inspire proposed framework directive is being watered down, as these Euro agreements often do, through the comitology (co-decision) process. Whereas in many governments bipartisan agreement must be reached...or perhaps among 4 or 5 parties...here we have 25+ chiming in, and also tension between Parliament, Council and Commission. The current thinking among Inspire creators/supporters, is that it is better to get a weak directive signed, and then work on the implementation rules to try to tighten things up, than to try to get a strong version passed up front only to see it rejected for all sorts of minor objections from each of the 25+. It's called consensus, and it's how OGC and other orgs (and most governments) get things done. (Remember that Europe has a 20+ year history of GI initiatives dying unsigned on some Commissioner's desktop; this time we want some sort of result!) The process of drafting implementation rules is already under way; the first meeting of the so-called Drafting Teams is Oct 3-4. I am on the metadata DT, and will do my best to try to get things tightened up there: not merely state that ISO19115/39 should be implemented, but rather demanding, in as strong a language as possible, that md generation be automated and made easier (and even fun) to create and publish. Also that the "right" md be collected in the right way at the right time. If not then perhaps the whole house of cards falls, in the same sense that other semantic web initiatives rely on md glue holding them together. Back to your point. Campaign for rejection? I don't think that wise, as currently there is no alternative solution on the table...so at this time what we have is better than nothing. The current GI situation in Europe is heavily NMA-controlled, however I see their position(s) evolving some over the past few years. I anticipate they will tend toward a new role as SDI coordinators (as apparently USGS is doing also) rather than (only) data producers. As coordinators they will find the current licensing and pricing schemes too messy and will themselves lobby for more open distribution (sharing) among the partners they are coordinating. Alternative to campaign for rejection? Gentle pressure in the form of alternatives proposed on lists such as this one. It is my impression that more radical approaches --especially those from individuals or small groups labeling themselves as hackers (!)-- do not get decision-makers' attention and are too easily dismissed. Practical demos of how things could be different seem to be working better. The people at geowankers list are good at producing these examples...new ideas appear daily. But remember that complete solutions are not only tech-related. They need to include solutions for tricky legal issues such as digital rights management, versioning, etc. So let's hear fully-developed ideas on how to migrate 25 NMAs from cost recovery mode to public dissemination mode! These are going to be interesting times (next 5 years or so). ----------- Michael Gould Department of Information Systems (LSI) Universitat Jaume I, 12071 Castellón Spain E-mail: gould (at) lsi.uji.es http://www.mgould.com http://www.geoinfo.uji.es -----Mensaje original----- De: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] En nombre de Benjamin Henrion Enviado el: martes, 16 de agosto de 2005 0:29 Para: [email protected] Asunto: [Freegis-list] Campaign for rejecting Inspire directive? Hi, I had a look at the amendments proposed in second reading by Parliament/Council on the Inspire Directive, but none of the amendments seems to say that data collected with public money should be put in the Public Domain, like it seems to be the case in the US (if you can clarify the situation of geo-data in the US, please do so). The current legislative proposal seems to go for strong copyright for geo-data producers, in order to "recover their costs". This is a shame for public geo-data, and I think a campaign should be launched for rejection. No new amendments can be introduced for the second reading in the European Parliament. -- Benjamin Henrion <[email protected]> http://bh.udev.org << Software patents are a Temptation >>> << Temptation leads to Stagnation >>> << Stagnation leads to the Dark Side. >>> _______________________________________________ Freegis-list mailing list [email protected] https://intevation.de/mailman/listinfo/freegis-list