Re: Campaign for rejecting Inspire directive?
Jo Walsh <[email protected]>
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dear Michael, list, On Tue, Aug 16, 2005 at 09:51:01AM +0200, michael gould wrote: > The current thinking among Inspire creators/supporters, is that it is better > to get a weak directive signed, and then work on the implementation rules to > try to tighten things up. It would be good to hear your assessment of where the proposed Directive has been 'weakened' and how that might be subject to fixing non-legislatively. > The current GI situation in Europe is > heavily NMA-controlled, however I see their position(s) evolving some over > the past few years. To an EU process and GI industry outsider, it looks as if INSPIRE has been dictated by the concerns of a cartel of National Mapping Agency representatives, at the expense of data holders and users. These are valid concerns: because NMAs can and do operate in competitive commercial markets, government pressure to semi-privatise mapping agencies, and reduce their public budget is intense. This is part of a bigger debate surrounding the ethics, if you like, of commercialising government-collected information of all kinds. The 'weak' directive does not reflect this debate; it enshrines existing copyright and IP policies in EU law, decreasing our chances of amending it locally. It entrenches the NMAs in a historic position, rather than reflecting their changing role as it rapidly emerges. It makes expensive and unnecessary stipulations about data distribution, *mandating* e-commerce services for all geodata sources that are not openly accessible - quite a cost and implementation burden in itself. > producers. As coordinators they will find the current licensing and pricing > schemes too messy and will themselves lobby for more open distribution > (sharing) among the partners they are coordinating. Then why the rush to entrench IP stances in EU law now? Again, why can't this be addressed at the national level before rushing into a Directive that is evasive and unclear? > Alternative to campaign for rejection? Gentle pressure in the form of > alternatives proposed on lists such as this one. It is my impression that > more radical approaches --especially those from individuals or small groups > labeling themselves as hackers (!)-- do not get decision-makers' attention > and are too easily dismissed. I understand that to have a voice at an EU level, one needs to be not merely an organisation, but a coalition of organisations. These structures reflect the priorities of large-scale business and professional lobbying organisations, not of loose groups of small companies and individual developers. This is why we set up http://www.okfn.org/geo/ and why, as a small coalition of projects, we've been working to propose a not-for-profit free license for state-collected geodata, generalised if necessary, very similar to that being used by the BBC to provide more open access to its archives. I've been Inspire-watching for a year and would have had no idea how to submit amendments or acquire a voice in the process; especially when large coalitions of state-funded data holders and creators (the marine/oceanographic people) have had their needs and views sidelined. > Practical demos of how things could be > different seem to be working better. "Chicken, meet egg." Most of the interesting activity on the geowanking list is from US and some Canadian projects. Without open access to the GI that describes our own parts of the world, how can we develop metadata sharing and web services solutions that will appear meaningful, recognisable to those we are trying to convince? I co-authored 'Mapping Hacks' to have the chance to present interesting Open Source GIS tools and semantic web principles in the context of the data access and dissemination debate. I hang my head when i confess to my UK/EU friends that 75% of the 'hacks' in the book are only possible in the US because of the data access policy that obtains there. I don't keep up with the OpenSDI conversation, but there is at least a candidate free software solution for Total Spatial Data Infrastructure in the world. I don't see where the route to informing 'decision makers' at the INSPIRE level of these solutions is. Can you help? > But remember that complete solutions are not only tech-related. They need to > include solutions for tricky legal issues such as digital rights management, > versioning, etc. Without access to real-world, meaningful data to make test cases out of, we can't develop these solutions at a free-software, free-time level. > So let's hear fully-developed ideas on how to migrate 25 NMAs from cost > recovery mode to public dissemination mode! I would rather hear these ideas emerging from the NMAs themselves, or hear more about where this debate is being conducted inside the INSPIRE implementation process now. I think that a free-for-non-profit-use license, available without supplication, is the turnkey in enabling academic and private researchers to build integration and translation solutions driven by their own needs. Given the messy history of European GI directives i appreciate that you don't want to throw the baby out with the bathwater, so to speak. I would like to see an alternative to INSPIRE and deeply regret having been unable to mobilise an amendment campaign before the first reading was complete. I'd like to see an analysis of where it is really still weak, and where it makes IP and copyright assumptions that will suppress innovation and economic activity, before any campaign to throw the whole thing out, which i fear would just be an energy sink for those of us working towards free information infrastructures. http://www.ael.be/index.php/InspireDirective seems like a good place to start, at least. Paolo, i think, suggested a while back that the freegis 'community' could be putting together a whitepaper on open standards, open source driven approaches to the 'implementing rules'. Again, i don't know how such proposals are inserted or accepted into the INSPIRE working groups, or how to make sure this would just not sink without trace. This is perhaps not the FFII's normal thing, Benjamin, but perhaps it could help assemble a 'working group' / provide online space for such an effort. > These are going to be interesting times (next 5 years or so). I'm still waiting for the Big Information Crunch. -jo