Re: [release planning] Enable Zenodo before 7.8.6 and 8.0.0

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Sonds like a very good plan. Appreciate the effort.

There is already a GRASS GIS community on Zenodo, managed by Pietro.

There are way more GRASS related records in zenodo than registered in that =
community. Wound probably be useful to register relevant entries in a GRASS=
 community...

Would it be an option to develop the community in that direction, Pietro? I=
f others too think that's useful ...

Cheers
Stefan
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Subject: Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] Enable Zenodo before 7.8.6 and =
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+1 from my side too

El lun., 24 may. 2021 03:23, Moritz Lennert <[email protected]<m=
ailto:[email protected]>> escribi=F3:
Clear +1 from me.

Moritz

Le 24 mai 2021 03:08:06 GMT+01:00, Vaclav Petras <[email protected]<mail=
to:[email protected]>> a =E9crit :
Hi all,

Let's enable the Zenodo link before 7.8.6 and 8.0(.0?) releases to get DOIs=
 and Zenodo records.

Solving the whole DOI linking and Zenodo archiving for the old versions may=
 be complex [1], but enabling the link between GitHub and Zenodo is trivial=
 (one click) and every newly created GitHub release (we do those) will be a=
utomatically registered and receive DOI.

Zenodo uses a system of DOI versions and a main DOI (Concept DOI). Whether =
it is an ideal system, that's a question, but it is currently the expected =
one since it is the same for everything on Zenodo. It is used automatically=
 when using the GitHub-Zenodo integration.

It seems I have the permissions to enable it for GRASS GIS. The one who ena=
bles that becomes a maintainer of it. I'm fine with that, but I won't be up=
loading any older versions. The maintainer can be changed later by contacti=
ng Zenodo support [2].

Although there are things to figure out in terms of next steps, I don't see=
 much risk in enabling it. There are no choices available in the setup or i=
n terms of alternatives. DOI and some kind of registration are expected mor=
e and more.

Thoughts?

Vaclav

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Sonds like a very good plan. Appreciate the effort.</div>
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<div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);=
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There is already a GRASS GIS community on Zenodo, managed by Pietro.</div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);=
" dir=3D"auto">
<br>
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<div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);=
" dir=3D"auto">
There are way more GRASS related records in zenodo than registered in that =
community. Wound probably be useful to register relevant entries in a GRASS=
 community...</div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);=
" dir=3D"auto">
<br>
</div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);=
" dir=3D"auto">
Would it be an option to develop the community in that direction, Pietro? I=
f others too think that's useful ...</div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);=
" dir=3D"auto">
<br>
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<div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);=
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Cheers&nbsp;</div>
<div style=3D"color: rgb(33, 33, 33); background-color: rgb(255, 255, 255);=
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Stefan</div>
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[email protected]&gt; on behalf of Veronica Andreo &lt;veroandreo@=
gmail.com&gt;<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Monday, May 24, 2021 1:48:21 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Moritz Lennert &lt;[email protected]&gt;<br>
<b>Cc:</b> grass-dev &lt;[email protected]&gt;; Peter L=F6we &lt;pe=
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [GRASS-dev] [release planning] Enable Zenodo before 7.8=
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<div dir=3D"auto">+1 from my side too</div>
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<div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"x_gmail_attr">El lun., 24 may. 2021 03:23, Moritz=
 Lennert &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">mlennert@club.=
worldonline.be</a>&gt; escribi=F3:<br>
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:1px #ccc solid; padding-left:1ex">
<div>Clear +1 from me. <br>
<br>
Moritz<br>
<br>
<div class=3D"x_gmail_quote">Le 24 mai 2021 03:08:06 GMT+01:00, Vaclav Petr=
as &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank" rel=3D"nor=
eferrer">[email protected]</a>&gt; a =E9crit&nbsp;:
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<div>Hi all,<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Let's enable the Zenodo link before 7.8.6 and 8.0(.0?) releases to get=
 DOIs and Zenodo records.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Solving the whole DOI linking and Zenodo archiving for the old version=
s may be complex [1], but enabling the link between GitHub and Zenodo is tr=
ivial (one click) and every newly created GitHub release (we do those) will=
 be automatically registered and
 receive DOI.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Zenodo uses a system of DOI versions and a main DOI (Concept DOI). Whe=
ther it is an ideal system, that's a question, but it is currently the expe=
cted one since it is the same for everything on Zenodo. It is used automati=
cally when using the GitHub-Zenodo
 integration.</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>It seems I have the permissions to enable it for GRASS GIS. The one wh=
o enables that becomes a maintainer of it. I'm fine with that, but I won't =
be uploading any older versions. The
<span>maintainer</span> can be changed later by contacting Zenodo support [=
2].<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Although there are things to figure out in terms of next steps, I don'=
t see much risk in enabling it. There are no choices available in the setup=
 or in terms of alternatives. DOI and some kind of registration are expecte=
d more and more.<br>
</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Thoughts?</div>
<div><br>
</div>
<div>Vaclav<br>
</div>
<div><br>
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