Re: A question about Italy Map Projection.

"Max Zhao" <[email protected]> Wed, 2 Jul 2003 18:07:00 -0400
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Todd,

Thanks for your suggestion. I guess I should try your idea out. I also =
had this idea. But someone said the 2 zones has some overlapping part. =
The east zone is between 6deg, 27min,  08sec and 12deg, 27min, 08sec. =
The west zone is between 11deg 57min 08sec and 18deg, 27min, 08sec. So =
there is overlapping part between longitude of 11deg 57min 08sec and =
12deg, 27min, 08sec.

Your suggestion made me rethink about the idea. Since their false =
easting are set far and away. So even though the longitude are =
overlapping. I might still be able to tell which zone it is by looking =
at the Easting and Northing. I will try it out soon!

Thanks,
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RM2D15, Building104
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Phone: (973) 236-6493
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  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: Todd Jamison=20
  To: [email protected]=20
  Sent: Wednesday, July 02, 2003 9:50 AM
  Subject: Re: [OSRS] A question about Italy Map Projection.


  Max,=20
  While I am not familiar with the specific case of Italy's zones, I =
believe that the answer lies in the false eastings values for your =
coordinate. The zone definitions should result in unique coordinates for =
any point within the country. I believe that the reason that the false =
eastings are 1,500,000 and 2,520,000 is that this will force all =
coordinates in zone one (within the country) to have an easting =
>1,000,000 and those within zone 2 to have an easting > 2,000,000. I'm =
not entirely sure of this, but you could try using this assumption to =
convert a number of your points and see if they fall as expected (i.e., =
on the italian landmass).=20
  Good luck,=20
  Todd

  On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 04:37 PM, Max Zhao wrote:


    I am working to convert a set of E&N coordinates in Italy back into =
latitude and longitude. I know there are tow zones (east zone and west =
zone) in Italy. The projection method is: Transverse Mercator or Gauss =
Boaga. I also know the Roma 1840 Datum for the 2 zones.=20
    =20
    My Question is: If I am given a pair of (E,N) coordinate, how can I =
tell it is in the east zone or it is in the west zone?
    =20
    I would greatly appreciate if any body can help me with this.
    =20
    Max zhao
    =
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    Max Zhao
    RM2D15, Building104
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    Phone: (973) 236-6493
    Fax:     (973) 236-6679
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  Todd Jamison CEO
  Observera, Inc. http://www.observera.com
  703-378-3153 FAX: 703-378-3166
  mailto:[email protected]

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<DIV><FONT face=3DArial size=3D2>Your suggestion made me rethink about =
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  Jamison</A> </DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> Re: [OSRS] A question =
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  Italy Map Projection.</DIV>
  <DIV><BR></DIV>Max, <BR>While I am not familiar with the specific case =
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  Italy's zones, I believe that the answer lies in the false eastings =
values for=20
  your coordinate. The zone definitions should result in unique =
coordinates for=20
  any point within the country. I believe that the reason that the false =

  eastings are 1,500,000 and 2,520,000 is that this will force all =
coordinates=20
  in zone one (within the country) to have an easting &gt;1,000,000 and =
those=20
  within zone 2 to have an easting &gt; 2,000,000. I'm not entirely sure =
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  this, but you could try using this assumption to convert a number of =
your=20
  points and see if they fall as expected (i.e., on the italian =
landmass).=20
  <BR>Good luck, <BR>Todd<BR><BR>On Tuesday, July 1, 2003, at 04:37 PM, =
Max Zhao=20
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