Re: [PROJ] OGRCreateCoordinateTransformation()

Even Rouault <[email protected]> Thu, 24 Mar 2022 18:54:44 +0100
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Le 24/03/2022 à 18:36, Erixen Cruz a écrit :
>
>>     PROJ4_GRIDS provided a way to specify exactly which geoid file(s)
>>     to use.  Some vertical datums, such as NAVD88, only have a single
>>     EPSG code for multiple geoids – what’s the replacement for
>>     PROJ4_GRIDS in PROJ9?  If I could switch to WKT2 strings (not
>>     sure that’s really feasible) does it fix these problems?
>>
>      WKT2 hardly helps for that.
>
>
> There is one way to get WKT2 to do just this. Here's the start of the 
> thread about that: 
> https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/proj/2019-December/009142.html. TLDR 
> you use a BOUNDCRS with an ABRIDGEDTRANSFORMATION. Thanks again, Even, 
> for pointing us in this direction.
>
> This is not ideal though. Like Even said, this (mis)use of BOUNDCRS 
> doesn't fit very cleanly in PROJ9 at the moment.

yeah, that can be used in PROJ (and that's exactly how a WKT1 with a 
TOWGS84 or PROJ4_GRIDS, or a PROJ.4 strings with 
+towgs84/+nadgrids/+geoidgrids end up being represented), but 
pedantically a BOUNDCRS[] is not a CRS. PROJ does accept is as a CRS 
(such as a COMPOUNDCRS of BOUNDCRS[]) because there was no other 
convenient way of modeling those legacy features in ISO19111:2019 / 
WKT2:2019, but this is an extension, and strictly conforming other 
implementations would reject that.

And the ABRIDGEDTRANSFORMATION[]  syntax cannot be used for vertical 
transformations where the geographic CRS would not be the interpolation CRS.


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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Le 24/03/2022 à 18:36, Erixen Cruz a
      écrit :<br>
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              <p class="MsoNormal">PROJ4_GRIDS provided a way to specify
                exactly which geoid file(s) to use.  Some vertical
                datums, such as NAVD88, only have a single EPSG code for
                multiple geoids – what’s the replacement for PROJ4_GRIDS
                in PROJ9?  If I could switch to WKT2 strings (not sure
                that’s really feasible) does it fix these problems?</p>
            </div>
          </blockquote>
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        <blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px
          0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"> WKT2
          hardly helps for that.</blockquote>
        <div><br>
        </div>
        <div>There is one way to get WKT2 to do just this. Here's the
          start of the thread about that: <a
            href="https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/proj/2019-December/009142.html"
            moz-do-not-send="true" class="moz-txt-link-freetext">https://lists.osgeo.org/pipermail/proj/2019-December/009142.html</a>.
          TLDR you use a BOUNDCRS with an ABRIDGEDTRANSFORMATION. Thanks
          again, Even, for pointing us in this direction.</div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CABG=M1Pb9E4mue1YtcDjDPCXfb=XL62y1v0K4g5AY=T-YX3z6w@mail.gmail.com">
      <div dir="ltr"><br>
        <div>This is not ideal though. Like Even said, this (mis)use of
          BOUNDCRS doesn't fit very cleanly in PROJ9 at the moment.</div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>yeah, that can be used in PROJ (and that's exactly how a WKT1
      with a TOWGS84 or PROJ4_GRIDS, or a PROJ.4 strings with
      +towgs84/+nadgrids/+geoidgrids end up being represented), but
      pedantically a BOUNDCRS[] is not a CRS. PROJ does accept is as a
      CRS (such as a COMPOUNDCRS of BOUNDCRS[]) because there was no
      other convenient way of modeling those legacy features in
      ISO19111:2019 / WKT2:2019, but this is an extension, and strictly
      conforming other implementations would reject that.</p>
    <p>And the ABRIDGEDTRANSFORMATION[]  syntax cannot be used for
      vertical transformations where the geographic CRS would not be the
      interpolation CRS.</p>
    <br>
    <pre class="moz-signature" cols="72">-- 
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