Re: Label both before and after an editable?
Alexander Surkov <[email protected]> Thu, 5 Apr 2018 14:41:42 -0400
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--===============5572919440527793729== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="f4f5e80ee2f884798805691e4abb" --f4f5e80ee2f884798805691e4abb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Isn't it accessible name computation issue? Usually it is author's responsibility to make a proper label for a control, and thus AT don't need to know any who's first and who is next. I have no LibreOffice at hands, so could you think of HTML like example to demo the issue? On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Samuel Thibault < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > I'm also getting the case of a label after the widget only: in a preview > dialog box, there is only an editable containing "1" and a label > containing "/2" after that. > > I tried to use flows-to/from, it didn't work, and it looks distorted to > me anyway. > > Perhaps we should introduce RELATION_LABEL_AFTER_FOR, > RELATION_LABELLED_AFTER_BY? > > Samuel > > Samuel Thibault, on mar. 27 f=C3=A9vr. 2018 18:34:08 +0100, wrote: > > We have seen in various places that an editable field has a label both > > before and after. For instance, in LibreOffice's Tools->Options dialog, > > in the LibreOffice->General section, there is > > > > "Interpret as years between 1930 and 2029" > > > > where "Interpret as years between" is a label, "1930" is an editable, > > and "and 2029" is another label. Currently in the .ui file the first > > label is set as mnemonic_widget for the editable, so that orca displays > > "Interpret as years between 1930", but this is not enough to understand > > what that is without the last label :) > > > > Is there a way to let orca know that there are actually two labels, > > one before and one after the editable? I thought perhaps relation > > flows-to/from in addition to the mnemonic_widget or label-for, but I'm > > really not sure. > > > > The same situation happens in various places where the second label > > provides the unit, or more precise specifications (e.g. "Distance 0cm > > between pages" where "0cm" is editable) > _______________________________________________ > gnome-accessibility-devel mailing list > [email protected] > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-devel > --f4f5e80ee2f884798805691e4abb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Isn't it accessible name computation issue? Usual= ly it is author's responsibility to make a proper label for a control, = and thus AT don't need to know any who's first and who is next.</di= v><div><br></div><div> I have no LibreOffice at hands, so could you think o= f HTML like example to demo the issue?</div></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra= "><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon, Mar 5, 2018 at 9:48 AM, Samuel Thi= bault <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]"= target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><b= lockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px = #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello,<br> <br> I'm also getting the case of a label after the widget only: in a previe= w<br> dialog box, there is only an editable containing "1" and a label<= br> containing "/2" after that.<br> <br> I tried to use flows-to/from, it didn't work, and it looks distorted to= <br> me anyway.<br> <br> Perhaps we should introduce RELATION_LABEL_AFTER_FOR,<br> RELATION_LABELLED_AFTER_BY?<br> <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br> Samuel<br> </font></span><span class=3D"im HOEnZb"><br> Samuel Thibault, on mar. 27 f=C3=A9vr. 2018 18:34:08 +0100, wrote:<br> > We have seen in various places that an editable field has a label both= <br> > before and after. For instance, in LibreOffice's Tools->Options= dialog,<br> > in the LibreOffice->General section, there is<br> ><br> > "Interpret as years between 1930 and 2029"<br> ><br> > where "Interpret as years between" is a label, "1930&qu= ot; is an editable,<br> > and "and 2029" is another label.=C2=A0 Currently in the .ui = file the first<br> > label is set as mnemonic_widget for the editable, so that orca display= s<br> > "Interpret as years between 1930", but this is not enough to= understand<br> > what that is without the last label :)<br> ><br> > Is there a way to let orca know that there are actually two labels,<br= > > one before and one after the editable?=C2=A0 I thought perhaps relatio= n<br> > flows-to/from in addition to the mnemonic_widget or label-for, but I&#= 39;m<br> > really not sure.<br> ><br> > The same situation happens in various places where the second label<br= > > provides the unit, or more precise specifications (e.g. "Distance= 0cm<br> > between pages" where "0cm" is editable)<br> </span><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">____________________________= __<wbr>_________________<br> gnome-accessibility-devel mailing list<br> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">gnome-accessibility-= devel@<wbr>gnome.org</a><br> <a href=3D"https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-deve= l" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">https://mail.gnome.org/<wbr>mailman= /listinfo/gnome-<wbr>accessibility-devel</a><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br></div> --f4f5e80ee2f884798805691e4abb-- --===============5572919440527793729== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ gnome-accessibility-devel mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-devel --===============5572919440527793729==--