Re: Label both before and after an editable?
Alexander Surkov <[email protected]> Fri, 6 Apr 2018 14:56:13 -0400
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--===============8916341127786614340== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="0000000000004b697b0569329cfb" --0000000000004b697b0569329cfb Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" It's something beyond my .ui file knowledge to comment knowingly, but it sounds weird with me that you can add new relations into that file, but you cannot define an accessible name there :) Anyway, new relations will require to change ATK standard and then add screen readers support, and LibreOffice may be the only one who will expose them. So LibreOffice-only solution has to exists, that makes developer's life easier, and doesn't require any standards changes. On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Samuel Thibault < [email protected]> wrote: > Hello, > > Alexander Surkov, le ven. 06 avril 2018 14:35:43 -0400, a ecrit: > > <label>Interpret as years between <input value="1930"> and 2029</label> > > should work in Firefox well. > > Ok, but that can't be expressed that way in a LibreOffice UI file :) > > > If it describes your use case accurately, then author should be capable > to > > address the issue by placing a proper accessible name. Thus it may be > felt > > awkward to introduce new relations for LibreOffice only, especially > because > > LibreOffice will still need to expose them, and it shouldn't be necessary > > easier than computing a name. It has to be other way. > > Making developer's life easier (only having to mark labels before/after) > would help with getting things fixed. In the case at stake, I would > very easily patch the .ui file to fix the accessibility issue by just > adding relations. Modifying the source code to compute an accessible > name would be *way* more involved for me. > > Samuel > --0000000000004b697b0569329cfb Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable <div dir=3D"ltr">It's something beyond my .ui file knowledge to comment= <span class=3D"gmail-gt-baf-word-clickable">knowingly</span>, but it sound= s weird with me that you can add new relations into that file, but you cann= ot define an accessible name there :)<br><br>Anyway, new relations will req= uire to change ATK standard and then add screen readers support, and LibreO= ffice may be the only one who will expose them. So LibreOffice-only solutio= n has to exists, that makes developer's life easier, and doesn't re= quire any standards changes.<br></div><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><div c= lass=3D"gmail_quote">On Fri, Apr 6, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Samuel Thibault <span = dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_= blank">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote cl= ass=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;p= adding-left:1ex">Hello,<br> <br> Alexander Surkov, le ven. 06 avril 2018 14:35:43 -0400, a ecrit:<br> <span class=3D"">> <label>Interpret as years between <input val= ue=3D"1930"> and 2029</label><br> > should work in Firefox well.<br> <br> </span>Ok, but that can't be expressed that way in a LibreOffice UI fil= e :)<br> <span class=3D""><br> > If it describes your use case accurately, then author should be capabl= e to<br> > address the issue by placing a proper accessible name. Thus it may be = felt<br> > awkward to introduce new relations for LibreOffice only, especially be= cause<br> > LibreOffice will still need to expose them, and it shouldn't be ne= cessary<br> > easier than computing a name. It has to be other way.<br> <br> </span>Making developer's life easier (only having to mark labels befor= e/after)<br> would help with getting things fixed.=C2=A0 In the case at stake, I would<b= r> very easily patch the .ui file to fix the accessibility issue by just<br> adding relations. Modifying the source code to compute an accessible<br> name would be *way* more involved for me.<br> <span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888"><br> Samuel<br> </font></span></blockquote></div><br></div> --0000000000004b697b0569329cfb-- --===============8916341127786614340== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ gnome-accessibility-devel mailing list [email protected] https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-devel --===============8916341127786614340==--