Re: [g-a-devel] Could we release new Accerciser version ? Last one was on 2016-09-20

apinheiro <[email protected]> Mon, 14 Jan 2019 15:12:06 +0100
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On 14/1/19 14:46, Javier Hernandez wrote:
> Hey all,
>
> first, thanks API for rolling that Accerciser release. It's great to
> see it moving again.


I dropped the API nickname, too confusing :P Jokes apart, thanks for
replying.


> And yeah, sorry for my silence, but I rarely check the GNOME channels
> on my email, Juanjo pinged me on Telegram about this thread.
>
> As I already told to Alex and Samuel off-list a few months ago, I'd be
> really happy to get them involved so they can take over the
> maintenance of Accerciser. Nowadays, it's pretty hard for me to find
> the time to work on it, my spare time is very limited :/
> As I remember from those exchanges, the problem was that they didn't
> have a gnome git account and that I couldn't just give them control
> over it. I told them that the best way to go was to produce a few
> contributions first that we could use during an application process
> for a gnome account. In any case, I'm not sure if the process to get
> git access has changed in the past 3/4 years or if Samuel already got
> a gnome account (or not an account, but contributed patches to other
> GNOME projects). So from my side, nothing against having Samuel
> maintaining Accerciser as long as we can vouch for him for a gnome
> account.

Reading here:

https://wiki.gnome.org/AccountsTeam/NewAccounts


the number of contributions needed are "reasonable amount of patches". I
think that adding Samuel ATK and Accerciser patches, he fulfills that
requisite. So I think that it would be good if Samuel request an account.=



>
> Cheers,
> Javi
>
> On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 11:29 AM apinheiro <[email protected]
> <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>
>     On 14/1/19 9:59, Alex ARNAUD wrote:
>     > Le 12/01/2019 =C3=A0 11:01, apinheiro a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:
>     >> Hi,
>     >>
>     >> I have just rolled a new Accerciser release. It is basically all=

>     >> included on master since the last release. You can see the
>     details on
>     >> the announcement I have just send.
>     >
>     > Thank you very much Alejandro for this.
>
>
>     You are welcome.
>
>
>     >
>     >> Ideally we would need the agreement of current maintainer. But
>     as far as
>     >> I understand your previous email, you didn't get any answer
>     from Javier.
>     >> Could you confirm that? If we don't get any answer from Javier, =
the
>     >> alternative is asking permission at
>     [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> =
(or
>     >> perhaps at the foundation list).
>     >
>     > I've contacted Javier to make the Samuel patches about the iPytho=
n5
>     > support available, he has made the review.
>     >
>     > I really respect the Javier work on Accerciser and his
>     involvement on
>     > accessibility.
>     > I've contacted him privately the 2018-10-17 about Accerciser rele=
ase
>     > without any answer from him.=C2=A0
>
>     > I personally consider we shouldn't wait more because I shouldn't
>     have
>     > to request a new release to a maintainer after years. I assume he=
 no
>     > longer has the time to work on Accerciser.
>
>
>     Ok, then let's reduce my proposed two-weeks to one week. For two
>     reasons. First, I always tend to be conservative on this things, an=
d
>     after all this time, and with a fresh release, waiting just one mor=
e
>     week shouldn't be a big deal. Second, because I bet that on
>     desktop-devel they will ask how much we waited from our last ping.
>
>
>     >
>     > @Alejandro: Does Samuel need to have a sponsor to become a
>     maintainer ?
>
>
>     Well, not sure. This kind of maintainer reassignement without the
>     previous maintainer available are not usual, so I don't think that
>     there
>     are a fixed list of requirements. I would personally propose Samuel=
 as
>     maintainer, and list all the reasons of why that is a good idea. I
>     hope
>     that's to be enough.
>
>
>     >
>     > Thanks in advance.
>     >
>     > Best regards,
>     > Alex.
>     >
>

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    <div class=3D"moz-cite-prefix">On 14/1/19 14:46, Javier Hernandez
      wrote:<br>
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        <div dir=3D"ltr">Hey all,
          <div><br>
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          <div>first, thanks API for rolling that Accerciser release.
            It's great to see it moving again.</div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>I dropped the API nickname, too confusing :P Jokes apart, thanks
      for replying.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"
cite=3D"mid:[email protected]=
l.com">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">
          <div>And yeah, sorry for my silence, but I rarely check the
            GNOME channels on my email, Juanjo pinged me on Telegram
            about this thread.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>As I already told to Alex and Samuel off-list a few
            months ago, I'd be really happy to get them involved so they
            can take over the maintenance of Accerciser. Nowadays, it's
            pretty hard for me to find the time to work on it, my spare
            time is very limited :/</div>
          <div>As I remember from those exchanges, the problem was that
            they didn't have a gnome git account and that I couldn't
            just give them control over it. I told them that the best
            way to go was to produce a few contributions first that we
            could use during an application process for a gnome account.
            In any case, I'm not sure if the process to get git access
            has changed in the past 3/4 years or if Samuel already got a
            gnome account (or not an account, but contributed patches to
            other GNOME projects). So from my side, nothing against
            having Samuel maintaining Accerciser as long as we can vouch
            for him for a gnome account.</div>
        </div>
      </div>
    </blockquote>
    <p>Reading here:</p>
    <p><a class=3D"moz-txt-link-freetext" href=3D"https://wiki.gnome.org/=
AccountsTeam/NewAccounts">https://wiki.gnome.org/AccountsTeam/NewAccounts=
</a></p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <p>the number of contributions needed are "reasonable amount of
      patches". I think that adding Samuel ATK and Accerciser patches,
      he fulfills that requisite. So I think that it would be good if
      Samuel request an account.<br>
    </p>
    <p><br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type=3D"cite"
cite=3D"mid:[email protected]=
l.com">
      <div dir=3D"ltr">
        <div dir=3D"ltr">
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Cheers,</div>
          <div>Javi</div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class=3D"gmail_quote">
          <div dir=3D"ltr">On Mon, Jan 14, 2019 at 11:29 AM apinheiro &lt=
;<a
              href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank"
              moz-do-not-send=3D"true">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote=
:<br>
          </div>
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
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            rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><br>
            On 14/1/19 9:59, Alex ARNAUD wrote:<br>
            &gt; Le 12/01/2019 =C3=A0 11:01, apinheiro a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0=
:<br>
            &gt;&gt; Hi,<br>
            &gt;&gt;<br>
            &gt;&gt; I have just rolled a new Accerciser release. It is
            basically all<br>
            &gt;&gt; included on master since the last release. You can
            see the details on<br>
            &gt;&gt; the announcement I have just send.<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; Thank you very much Alejandro for this.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            You are welcome.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt;&gt; Ideally we would need the agreement of current
            maintainer. But as far as<br>
            &gt;&gt; I understand your previous email, you didn't get
            any answer from Javier.<br>
            &gt;&gt; Could you confirm that? If we don't get any answer
            from Javier, the<br>
            &gt;&gt; alternative is asking permission at <a
              href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_bla=
nk"
              moz-do-not-send=3D"true">[email protected]</a>
            (or<br>
            &gt;&gt; perhaps at the foundation list).<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; I've contacted Javier to make the Samuel patches about
            the iPython5<br>
            &gt; support available, he has made the review.<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; I really respect the Javier work on Accerciser and his
            involvement on<br>
            &gt; accessibility.<br>
            &gt; I've contacted him privately the 2018-10-17 about
            Accerciser release<br>
            &gt; without any answer from him.=C2=A0</blockquote>
          <blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px
            0.8ex;border-left:1px solid
            rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
            &gt; I personally consider we shouldn't wait more because I
            shouldn't have<br>
            &gt; to request a new release to a maintainer after years. I
            assume he no<br>
            &gt; longer has the time to work on Accerciser.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Ok, then let's reduce my proposed two-weeks to one week. For
            two<br>
            reasons. First, I always tend to be conservative on this
            things, and<br>
            after all this time, and with a fresh release, waiting just
            one more<br>
            week shouldn't be a big deal. Second, because I bet that on<b=
r>
            desktop-devel they will ask how much we waited from our last
            ping.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; @Alejandro: Does Samuel need to have a sponsor to
            become a maintainer ?<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            Well, not sure. This kind of maintainer reassignement
            without the<br>
            previous maintainer available are not usual, so I don't
            think that there<br>
            are a fixed list of requirements. I would personally propose
            Samuel as<br>
            maintainer, and list all the reasons of why that is a good
            idea. I hope<br>
            that's to be enough.<br>
            <br>
            <br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; Thanks in advance.<br>
            &gt;<br>
            &gt; Best regards,<br>
            &gt; Alex.<br>
            &gt;<br>
          </blockquote>
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