Re: Gnome menu

meg ford <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.accessibility.general
Message-ID <CAC4QDKj2GfiiqpJ5Qtc4AvyUjMkDi-=S1_ZNwqCA2UfbAUrMRg@mail.gmail.com>
Here is the documentation for the keyboard shortcuts for navigating the
applications icons [1], although I I think that asking a person with a
physical disability to hold down ctrl and alt while tabbing is
not feasible. Maybe someone else knows of a better solution.

Meg Ford

[1]
http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html.en

On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM, meg ford <[email protected]> wrote:

> The activities overview really doesn't work well for people with physical
> disabilities. Using the mouse to choose an application can be very tiring,
> and sometimes impossible for such users. Typing the name of the application
> is also really difficult. Looking here [1] I don't see a way to navigate
> the application icons using the keyboard. Maybe that has been added and the
> documentation hasn't been updated?
>
> There is a shell extension that provides a Gnome 2 style applications menu
> [2]. I think this should be easier to use.
>
> Meg Ford
>
> [1]
> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/shell-apps-open.html.en
> [2] https://extensions.gnome.org/accounts/profile/gcampax
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dylan McCall <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> That's a shame about the accident. I'm glad that GNOME and Debian have
>> worked for you until now.
>>
>> The new menus _should_ be accessible. May you please explain what
>> about them isn't working out? I'm sure that would help to improve the
>> implementation. As it is, adding a toggle between the two menu layouts
>> is no simple task: with this menu redesign, the idea of grouping menu
>> items under things like "Edit" and "View" is going to drift away, so
>> even if the bits were in place it would be quite difficult to change
>> it back (especially dynamically).
>>
>> If I was to guess, the biggest problem for keyboard-accessibility is
>> that the menus don't open with F10, so you have to reach them with
>> Tab. Is that the gist of the problem? That might be something to
>> mandate in the HIG (and maybe add at the toolkit level), because it
>> _is_ quite surprising. Google Chrome, for example, is keyboard
>> accessible: its wrench menu can be opened with the usual mnemonics
>> (Alt+F or Alt+E). They forgot that F10 is the _real_ common
>> menu-opening shortcut, but they did try :)
>>
>> If you haven't already found it, the keyboard shortcut to get the
>> application menu (beside Activities at the top left of the screen) is
>> Super+F10. You can also use the left and right arrow keys to get
>> anywhere else on the top bar. Do you find that one works okay?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dylan
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:29 AM, surma <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > I’ve been using debian since 27 March of 1996, before gnome everything
>> was quite crappy, but I started using gnome 11 June 2000, and linux turned
>> easy. Then (2004/2005) I had a terrible car accident, I got rammed, then I
>> spent 6 months in coma, which messed up my hands, so I can’t use mouse,
>> that’s why I prefer keyboard. Maake a place under gconf-editor where you
>> can choose the style of menu, so people can use either classic or modern
>> style.
>> >
>> > That’s why I can’t use mouse.
>> > http://www.hot.ee/surma/Surma_24.12.05.jpg
>> > I built this car myself … and had an accident with it.
>> >
>> > This is what was left of my car.
>> > http://www.hot.ee/surma/katki.jpg
>> > Tanel
>> >
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