Re: Gnome menu

Robert Cole <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.accessibility.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hello.

The Super key is typically used as a term for the Windows key on a 
standard keyboard.

When an application is open, GNOME Shell displays a tab-like icon right 
next to the Activities Overview button on the top panel. This icon 
displays a thumbnail image for an application's icon as well as the name 
of the application relative to the currently focused window. For 
instance,  my currently focused windows is the Thunderbird composition 
window. The icon on the top panel displays a small Thunderbird icon 
along with "Thunderbird" to the right. If I click on this icon I see a 
"Quit" option; this menu can also be accessed by using the Super+F10 key 
combination. I think that it is eventually intended that the 
applications' menus (File, Edit, View, etc) will be removed from the 
standard menu bar and will be placed as a drop-down menu of this top 
icon which I mentioned earlier.

Unless I am mistaken, I think that when someone makes references to the 
Applications menu, I think that many are referring to the traditional 
GNOME 2.x-style Applications menu. In GNOME Shell, there is the 
Applications view of the Activities Overview. When the Activities 
Overview is open, a Windows tab and an Applications tab are displayed 
below the top panel. One can get to these different areas (the Dash, the 
Windows view, the Applications view, and the Search area by using the 
CTRL+ALT+Tab key combination, pressing it multiple times until the 
desired area (Dash, Windows, Applications, etc) is reached, and then 
releasing it.

The other applications menu is the soon-to-be implemented (unless I am 
understanding incorrectly) GNOME-style Global Menu system which will 
move the traditional application menu bar (File, Edit, View, etc) to the 
top panel's icon for whichever application has the current focus.

I apologize. I feel like this could be explained better, but this is the 
best way which I can explain it right now. I hope that this makes some 
sense.

Take care, and have a great evening!

On 08/25/2012 05:16 PM, [email protected] wrote:
> Hi.  What  is super?  I tried alt-f1, but there is nothing on the
> applications menu reached by that.  If I hit control-tab twice, I get to
> a top panel and it says menu bar along with some other icons.  Is this
> all by design?
>
> Dylan McCall <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> That's a shame about the accident. I'm glad that GNOME and Debian have
>> worked for you until now.
>>
>> The new menus _should_ be accessible. May you please explain what
>> about them isn't working out? I'm sure that would help to improve the
>> implementation. As it is, adding a toggle between the two menu layouts
>> is no simple task: with this menu redesign, the idea of grouping menu
>> items under things like "Edit" and "View" is going to drift away, so
>> even if the bits were in place it would be quite difficult to change
>> it back (especially dynamically).
>>
>> If I was to guess, the biggest problem for keyboard-accessibility is
>> that the menus don't open with F10, so you have to reach them with
>> Tab. Is that the gist of the problem? That might be something to
>> mandate in the HIG (and maybe add at the toolkit level), because it
>> _is_ quite surprising. Google Chrome, for example, is keyboard
>> accessible: its wrench menu can be opened with the usual mnemonics
>> (Alt+F or Alt+E). They forgot that F10 is the _real_ common
>> menu-opening shortcut, but they did try :)
>>
>> If you haven't already found it, the keyboard shortcut to get the
>> application menu (beside Activities at the top left of the screen) is
>> Super+F10. You can also use the left and right arrow keys to get
>> anywhere else on the top bar. Do you find that one works okay?
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Dylan
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:29 AM, surma <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I’ve been using debian since 27 March of 1996, before gnome everything was quite crappy, but I started using gnome 11 June 2000, and linux turned easy. Then (2004/2005) I had a terrible car accident, I got rammed, then I spent 6 months in coma, which messed up my hands, so I can’t use mouse, that’s why I prefer keyboard. Maake a place under gconf-editor where you can choose the style of menu, so people can use either classic or modern style.
>>>
>>> That’s why I can’t use mouse.
>>> http://www.hot.ee/surma/Surma_24.12.05.jpg
>>> I built this car myself … and had an accident with it.
>>>
>>> This is what was left of my car.
>>> http://www.hot.ee/surma/katki.jpg
>>> Tanel
>>>
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