Re: Gnome menu

> Here is the documentation for the keyboard shortcuts for navigating the
> applications icons [1], although I I think that asking a person with a
> physical disability to hold down ctrl and alt while tabbing is
> not feasible. Maybe someone else knows of a better solution.
>
> Well, Ctrl+Alt+Tab is the one used because it was the one used at GNOME 2.
> Anyway, there is a work in progress effort in order to define new
> keyshortcuts for gnome-shell:
>
> https://live.gnome.org/GnomeOS/Design/Whiteboards/KeyboardShortcuts
>
> I suggested them some others, like direct access to the Dash and others.
>

I honestly don't know that this is a case where a simpler shortcut is
necessary, or if it should be considered a case where users need adapted
systems. I'll ask around in the accessibility community here and see what
people think, and comment there if it seems like the solution we have is
not up to standards.

Thanks for the link,
Meg Ford

>
> BR
>
>
>
>  Meg Ford
>
>  [1]
> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/shell-keyboard-shortcuts.html.en
>
> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 1:11 PM, meg ford <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> The activities overview really doesn't work well for people with physical
>> disabilities. Using the mouse to choose an application can be very tiring,
>> and sometimes impossible for such users. Typing the name of the application
>> is also really difficult. Looking here [1] I don't see a way to navigate
>> the application icons using the keyboard. Maybe that has been added and the
>> documentation hasn't been updated?
>>
>>  There is a shell extension that provides a Gnome 2 style applications
>> menu [2]. I think this should be easier to use.
>>
>>  Meg Ford
>>
>>  [1]
>> http://library.gnome.org/users/gnome-help/stable/shell-apps-open.html.en
>> [2] https://extensions.gnome.org/accounts/profile/gcampax
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 12:25 PM, Dylan McCall <[email protected]>wrote:
>>
>>> That's a shame about the accident. I'm glad that GNOME and Debian have
>>> worked for you until now.
>>>
>>> The new menus _should_ be accessible. May you please explain what
>>> about them isn't working out? I'm sure that would help to improve the
>>> implementation. As it is, adding a toggle between the two menu layouts
>>> is no simple task: with this menu redesign, the idea of grouping menu
>>> items under things like "Edit" and "View" is going to drift away, so
>>> even if the bits were in place it would be quite difficult to change
>>> it back (especially dynamically).
>>>
>>> If I was to guess, the biggest problem for keyboard-accessibility is
>>> that the menus don't open with F10, so you have to reach them with
>>> Tab. Is that the gist of the problem? That might be something to
>>> mandate in the HIG (and maybe add at the toolkit level), because it
>>> _is_ quite surprising. Google Chrome, for example, is keyboard
>>> accessible: its wrench menu can be opened with the usual mnemonics
>>> (Alt+F or Alt+E). They forgot that F10 is the _real_ common
>>> menu-opening shortcut, but they did try :)
>>>
>>> If you haven't already found it, the keyboard shortcut to get the
>>> application menu (beside Activities at the top left of the screen) is
>>> Super+F10. You can also use the left and right arrow keys to get
>>> anywhere else on the top bar. Do you find that one works okay?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Dylan
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Aug 25, 2012 at 9:29 AM, surma <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > I’ve been using debian since 27 March of 1996, before gnome everything
>>> was quite crappy, but I started using gnome 11 June 2000, and linux turned
>>> easy. Then (2004/2005) I had a terrible car accident, I got rammed, then I
>>> spent 6 months in coma, which messed up my hands, so I can’t use mouse,
>>> that’s why I prefer keyboard. Maake a place under gconf-editor where you
>>> can choose the style of menu, so people can use either classic or modern
>>> style.
>>> >
>>> > That’s why I can’t use mouse.
>>> > http://www.hot.ee/surma/Surma_24.12.05.jpg
>>> > I built this car myself … and had an accident with it.
>>> >
>>> > This is what was left of my car.
>>> > http://www.hot.ee/surma/katki.jpg
>>> > Tanel
>>> >
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