Re: Accessibility yellow-black

apinheiro <[email protected]> Wed, 2 Oct 2019 11:07:37 +0200
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Hi,

On 23/9/19 11:42, apinheiro wrote:
>
>
> On 21/9/19 15:55, Felix Lehmann wrote:
>> Hi apinheiro,
>>
>> thanks for your answers.
>>
>> You wrote: "If you go to the zoom configuration tab, in addition to 
>> the ability to add crosshairs, you can see that there are some color 
>> effects tabs, and that there is also some built-in hight contrast 
>> mode on the zoom."
>>
>> I tried that, but i was only able to change the color of the 
>> crosshair, not the color of the "high contrast mode".
>
>
> Sorry, I didn't explained myself properly: Right now there are three 
> tabs to configure the zoom: "Magnifier", "Crosshair" and "Color 
> effects". "Color effects" allows to change the brightness, contrast 
> the amount of color, and has a "White on Black" button. FWIW, that one 
> is in fact a "invert brightness" button, that is an alternative way to 
> get something similar to a high contrast mode. So, what I wanted to 
> say, is that at some point we had the plan to add there more 
> functionality, like the one you need to specify a specific color, 
> instead of just allowing to change the intensity.
>
> Having said so, just in case, I checked again, and in fact, some of 
> that functionality is already implemented, but unfourtunately there is 
> not UI to configure it. So if you don't mind to use the terminal, here 
> it is explained which gsettings can be modified to change the colors:
>
> https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Magnification#Implemented_Features
>
> Just in case, I have attached a script that sets the brightness and 
> contrast colors to yellow. You just need to open a terminal and write:
>
> $ sh color-settings.sh
>
> Note that script will not enable the magnifier, you still need to 
> enable it. You can play a little with the values there, and the "White 
> on Black" button and see if you get that you need.
>
>
> Sincerely, as Im saying, there is more implemented that I remember. If 
> you get the proper colors using that script, and think that the 
> outcome is useful, I think that we could try to open a issue on the 
> settings UI, to see if there is a way to get an UI to configure it.  
> So if you get this configured in a way that it is useful to you, I 
> would appreciate if you mention that.
>
just a gentle ping, because as I mentioned on my last email, I'm 
interested to know if this instructions helped you.

Were you able to configure the zoom for your needs based on the script? 
If not, do you need some extra hints about how to use it?

>
>> Is there any other way to change the colors of high contrast mode?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Felix L.
>>
>>
>> Am Mo., 16. Sept. 2019 um 10:56 Uhr schrieb apinheiro 
>> <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>:
>>
>>
>>     On 15/9/19 21:11, Felix Lehmann via gnome-accessibility-list wrote:
>>>     Hi there,
>>>
>>>     I really like the accessibility options a lot.
>>>     Unfortunately the "high contrast" mode only has the automatic
>>>     color black and white (or vice versa).
>>
>>
>>     Yes. Some history: at some point the people involved with
>>     accessibility decided that it would be better to not add too many
>>     special modes, and adding to the zoom the ability to do color
>>     effects. If you go to the zoom configuration tab, in addition to
>>     the ability to add crosshairs, you can see that there are some
>>     color effects tabs, and that there is also some built-in hight
>>     contrast mode on the zoom.
>>
>>     So ...
>>
>>
>>>
>>>     My question:
>>>     Could it be possible to implement other color combinations in
>>>     the future?
>>
>>
>>     ... yes, in theory it would be possible to implement more color
>>     combinations extending the color effects that the magnifier
>>     already have. Unfourtunately, there isn't anyone working on the
>>     zoom actively. It would be needed to someone steps forward and
>>     volunteer to keep adding features.
>>
>>>     Visually impaired people can cope with very individual colors.
>>>     My mother, for example, uses bold yellow lettering on a black
>>>     background.
>>>
>>>     The default "high contrast" mode (black-white) unfortunately
>>>     dazzles her a bit too much.
>>>
>>>     Have I perhaps overlooked something and the setting for the
>>>     color selection is already there?
>>>
>>>     I am looking forward to your answers/ideas.
>>>
>>>     Best regards
>>>
>>>     Felix L.
>>>
>>>     _______________________________________________
>>>     gnome-accessibility-list mailing list
>>>     [email protected]  <mailto:[email protected]>
>>>     https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-accessibility-list
>>
>>
>>
>> -- 
>> Felix Lehmann

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    <p>Hi,<br>
    </p>
    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 23/9/19 11:42, apinheiro wrote:<br>
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      <div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 21/9/19 15:55, Felix Lehmann
        wrote:<br>
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cite="mid:CAMf-OYFFU1=Lmjc+h2K5QmnoyPjMEiqb_dBqkrUmUgWBbPUiEA@mail.gmail.com">
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        <div dir="ltr">Hi apinheiro,
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>thanks for your answers.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>You wrote: "If you go to the zoom configuration tab, in
            addition to the ability to add crosshairs, you can see that
            there are some color effects tabs, and that there is also
            some built-in hight contrast mode on the zoom."</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>I tried that, but i was only able to change the color of
            the crosshair, not the color of the "high contrast mode".</div>
        </div>
      </blockquote>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <p>Sorry, I didn't explained myself properly: Right now there are
        three tabs to configure the zoom: "Magnifier", "Crosshair" and
        "Color effects". "Color effects" allows to change the
        brightness, contrast the amount of color, and has a "White on
        Black" button. FWIW, that one is in fact a "invert brightness"
        button, that is an alternative way to get something similar to a
        high contrast mode. So, what I wanted to say, is that at some
        point we had the plan to add there more functionality, like the
        one you need to specify a specific color, instead of just
        allowing to change the intensity.</p>
      <p>Having said so, just in case, I checked again, and in fact,
        some of that functionality is already implemented, but
        unfourtunately there is not UI to configure it. So if you don't
        mind to use the terminal, here it is explained which gsettings
        can be modified to change the colors:</p>
      <p><a class="moz-txt-link-freetext"
href="https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Magnification#Implemented_Features"
          moz-do-not-send="true">https://wiki.gnome.org/Projects/GnomeShell/Magnification#Implemented_Features</a></p>
      <p>Just in case, I have attached a script that sets the brightness
        and contrast colors to yellow. You just need to open a terminal
        and write:</p>
      <p>$ sh color-settings.sh<br>
      </p>
      <p>Note that script will not enable the magnifier, you still need
        to enable it. You can play a little with the values there, and
        the "White on Black" button and see if you get that you need.</p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <p>Sincerely, as Im saying, there is more implemented that I
        remember. If you get the proper colors using that script, and
        think that the outcome is useful, I think that we could try to
        open a issue on the settings UI, to see if there is a way to get
        an UI to configure it.  So if you get this configured in a way
        that it is useful to you, I would appreciate if you mention
        that.<br>
      </p>
    </blockquote>
    <p>just a gentle ping, because as I mentioned on my last email, I'm
      interested to know if this instructions helped you.<br>
    </p>
    <p>Were you able to configure the zoom for your needs based on the
      script? If not, do you need some extra hints about how to use it?<br>
    </p>
    <blockquote type="cite"
      cite="mid:[email protected]">
      <p> </p>
      <p><br>
      </p>
      <blockquote type="cite"
cite="mid:CAMf-OYFFU1=Lmjc+h2K5QmnoyPjMEiqb_dBqkrUmUgWBbPUiEA@mail.gmail.com">
        <div dir="ltr">
          <div>Is there any other way to change the colors of high
            contrast mode?</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
          <div>Best regards,</div>
          <div>Felix L.</div>
          <div><br>
          </div>
        </div>
        <br>
        <div class="gmail_quote">
          <div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">Am Mo., 16. Sept. 2019 um
            10:56 Uhr schrieb apinheiro &lt;<a
              href="mailto:[email protected]" moz-do-not-send="true">[email protected]</a>&gt;:<br>
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              <div class="gmail-m_4234605665021992962moz-cite-prefix">On
                15/9/19 21:11, Felix Lehmann via
                gnome-accessibility-list wrote:<br>
              </div>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div dir="ltr">Hi there,<br>
                  <br>
                  I really like the accessibility options a lot.<br>
                  Unfortunately the "high contrast" mode only has the
                  automatic color black and white (or vice versa).<br>
                </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <p>Yes. Some history: at some point the people involved
                with accessibility decided that it would be better to
                not add too many special modes, and adding to the zoom
                the ability to do color effects. If you go to the zoom
                configuration tab, in addition to the ability to add
                crosshairs, you can see that there are some color
                effects tabs, and that there is also some built-in hight
                contrast mode on the zoom.</p>
              <p>So ...</p>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div dir="ltr"><br>
                  My question:<br>
                  Could it be possible to implement other color
                  combinations in the future? </div>
              </blockquote>
              <p><br>
              </p>
              <p>... yes, in theory it would be possible to implement
                more color combinations extending the color effects that
                the magnifier already have. Unfourtunately, there isn't
                anyone working on the zoom actively. It would be needed
                to someone steps forward and volunteer to keep adding
                features.<br>
              </p>
              <blockquote type="cite">
                <div dir="ltr">Visually impaired people can cope with
                  very individual colors. My mother, for example, uses
                  bold yellow lettering on a black background.<br>
                  <br>
                  The default "high contrast" mode (black-white)
                  unfortunately dazzles her a bit too much.<br>
                  <br>
                  Have I perhaps overlooked something and the setting
                  for the color selection is already there?<br>
                  <br>
                  I am looking forward to your answers/ideas.<br>
                  <br>
                  Best regards<br>
                  <br>
                  Felix L.</div>
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