Re: Ekiga.net discontinued

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how can i unsubscribe from this list pls

Le sam. 1 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0 20:45, Stuart D. Gathman <[email protected]=
g> a
=C3=A9crit :

> On Sun, 2 Dec 2018, Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote:
>
> > On 02/12/2018, Damien Sandras <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the
> >> decision to discontinue EKIGA.NET before the end of the year.
>
> > I am wondering whether, given that Ekiga is said to be open source,
> > rather than, as its owner, simply shutting it down, it would not be
> > more appropriate and consistent with the (perceived) nature of open
> > source,, to seek a new group of people, to take it on, for the sake of
> > its continuance.
>
> Ekiga.net is not needed for peer to peer calls.  It is only to help
> out unfortunate souls still in IP4 NAT jail because they haven't learned
> how to join the IP6 world.  ISPs will never offer IP6.  You have to
> peer with friends and/or sign up with a general tunnel broker like
> he.net.
>
> There are other sites offering free IP4 SIP call brokering (generally
> charging for POTS connections to make their money).
>
> I moved to Linphone (another open source SIP client) because it
> supported IPv6.  Peer to peer SIP really requires IPv6.
>
> The Cjdns IPv6 mesh VPN allows authenticated, encrypted peer to peer call=
s
> anywhere in the world without any exchange of certs, etc, and a device
> keeps its IP as it moves around.  The IPv6 is a hash of the public key
> of the node.
>
> Even without a VPN, IPv6 allows direct peer to peer without needing
> a public IP4 or a centralized site to help with all the NAT workarounds.
>
> Ekiga does a number of things better than linphone (e.g. addressbook).
> But the lack of IPv6 was a deal killer.  There were efforts to
> add IPv6 support to ekiga, but never finished that I was aware of.
> Actually, IPv6 support in Linphone is a pain - it can't listen on
> IP4 (for commercial SIP to POTS services) and IP6 simultaneously.
> You have to switch back and forth in preferences.  Ekiga could do it so
> much better.
>
> --
>               Stuart D. Gathman <[email protected]>
> "Confutatis maledictis, flamis acribus addictis" - background song for
> a Microsoft sponsored "Where do you want to go from here?" commercial.
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<div dir=3D"ltr"><div class=3D"gmail_default" style=3D"font-size:large">how=
 can i unsubscribe from this list pls<br></div></div><br><div class=3D"gmai=
l_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr">Le=C2=A0sam. 1 d=C3=A9c. 2018 =C3=A0=C2=A020:45, =
Stuart D. Gathman &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">stuart@gathman.=
org</a>&gt; a =C3=A9crit=C2=A0:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" =
style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On =
Sun, 2 Dec 2018, Bret Busby via ekiga-list wrote:<br>
<br>
&gt; On 02/12/2018, Damien Sandras &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]=
om" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt; Due to the lack of time, and to the last outages, I have taken the=
<br>
&gt;&gt; decision to discontinue <a href=3D"http://EKIGA.NET" rel=3D"norefe=
rrer" target=3D"_blank">EKIGA.NET</a> before the end of the year.<br>
<br>
&gt; I am wondering whether, given that Ekiga is said to be open source,<br=
>
&gt; rather than, as its owner, simply shutting it down, it would not be<br=
>
&gt; more appropriate and consistent with the (perceived) nature of open<br=
>
&gt; source,, to seek a new group of people, to take it on, for the sake of=
<br>
&gt; its continuance.<br>
<br>
Ekiga.net is not needed for peer to peer calls.=C2=A0 It is only to help<br=
>
out unfortunate souls still in IP4 NAT jail because they haven&#39;t learne=
d<br>
how to join the IP6 world.=C2=A0 ISPs will never offer IP6.=C2=A0 You have =
to<br>
peer with friends and/or sign up with a general tunnel broker like<br>
<a href=3D"http://he.net" rel=3D"noreferrer" target=3D"_blank">he.net</a>.<=
br>
<br>
There are other sites offering free IP4 SIP call brokering (generally<br>
charging for POTS connections to make their money).<br>
<br>
I moved to Linphone (another open source SIP client) because it<br>
supported IPv6.=C2=A0 Peer to peer SIP really requires IPv6.<br>
<br>
The Cjdns IPv6 mesh VPN allows authenticated, encrypted peer to peer calls =
<br>
anywhere in the world without any exchange of certs, etc, and a device<br>
keeps its IP as it moves around.=C2=A0 The IPv6 is a hash of the public key=
<br>
of the node.<br>
<br>
Even without a VPN, IPv6 allows direct peer to peer without needing <br>
a public IP4 or a centralized site to help with all the NAT workarounds.<br=
>
<br>
Ekiga does a number of things better than linphone (e.g. addressbook).<br>
But the lack of IPv6 was a deal killer.=C2=A0 There were efforts to<br>
add IPv6 support to ekiga, but never finished that I was aware of.<br>
Actually, IPv6 support in Linphone is a pain - it can&#39;t listen on<br>
IP4 (for commercial SIP to POTS services) and IP6 simultaneously.<br>
You have to switch back and forth in preferences.=C2=A0 Ekiga could do it s=
o<br>
much better.<br>
<br>
-- <br>
=C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 =C2=A0 Stuart D. Gathman &lt;<a h=
ref=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&=
gt;<br>
&quot;Confutatis maledictis, flamis acribus addictis&quot; - background son=
g for<br>
a Microsoft sponsored &quot;Where do you want to go from here?&quot; commer=
cial.<br>
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