Re: [GNC] Received e-mails in Spams (bad e-mail server configuration / ML configuration)

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Dear all, thanks for your answers,=0A=
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Note: I have always recent e-mails in Junk Emails/Spams folder.=0A=
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Sorry, I have forgotten in more SPF/DKIM/DMARC standards, there are Authent=
icated Received Chain (ARC) and BIMI too.=0A=
I have added all standard links after.=0A=
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The goal is to have good settings and not good automatic e-mails in Junk Em=
ails/Spams folder, all e-mail servers must to respect it.=0A=
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If other e-mail servers administrators read me, please do same.=0A=
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In this gnucash.org case, where I can send full mail logs to fix this probl=
em (in all lists)?=0A=
- https://lists.gnucash.org/mailman/listinfo=0A=
Who manage the gnucash e-mail server?=0A=
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For informations: The standards are here:=0A=
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RFC 7208: Sender Policy Framework (SPF) for Authorizing Use of Domains in E=
mail, Version 1=0A=
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7208=0A=
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RFC 6376: DomainKeys Identified Mail (DKIM) Signatures=0A=
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc6376=0A=
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RFC 7489: Domain-based Message Authentication, Reporting, and Conformance (=
DMARC)=0A=
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc7489=0A=
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RFC 8617: The Authenticated Received Chain (ARC) Protocol=0A=
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/html/rfc8617=0A=
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I-Draft (not yet a RFC but already implemented in several projects/software=
s/companies): Brand Indicators for Message Identification (BIMI)=0A=
- https://datatracker.ietf.org/doc/draft-brand-indicators-for-message-ident=
ification/=0A=
- https://bimigroup.org/=0A=
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To test the e-mail server: SPF/DKIM/DMARC/BIMI (no test for ARC):=0A=
- https://mxtoolbox.com/SuperTool.aspx=0A=
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Google search about mailman/postfix and SPF/DKIM/DMARC/ARC/BIMI:=0A=
- https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dmailman+SPF+DKIM+DMARC+ARC=0A=
- https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dpostfix+SPF+DKIM+DMARC+ARC=0A=
- https://www.google.com/search?q=3Dpostfix+BIMI=0A=
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Thanks a lot in advance.=0A=
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Regards,=0A=
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Neustradamus=0A=
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From: gnucash-user <gnucash-user-bounces+neustradamus=3Dhotmail.com@gnucash=
.org> on behalf of Harold Hallikainen via gnucash-user <gnucash-user@gnucas=
h.org>=0A=
Sent: Saturday, November 8, 2025 06:42=0A=
To: [email protected]=0A=
Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]=0A=
Subject: Re: [GNC] Received e-mails in Spams (bad e-mail server configurati=
on / ML configuration)=0A=
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I do just SPF and DMARC, both of which are on the dns server. That seems=0A=
to work. Dkim looks more complicated sibce it created by the mail server=0A=
for each message. Spf and dmarc wirk for me. Good luck=0A=
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Harold=0A=
Https://w6iwi.org=0A=
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On Fri, November 7, 2025 9:49 pm, [email protected] wrote:=0A=
> Thank you for this. A little searching shows that DMARC needs both SPF=0A=
> and DKIM, and the header below shows that the DKIM signature did not=0A=
> verify. I'm not sure how difficult correcting this problem would be for=
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> the mailing list sysops.=0A=
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> =E2=81=A3David T. =E2=80=8B=0A=
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> On Nov 8, 2025, 6:00=E2=80=AFAM, at 6:00=E2=80=AFAM, Harold Hallikainen v=
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> gnucash-user <[email protected]> wrote:=0A=
>> A lot of email servers want SPF and DMARC. The headers are showing SPF=
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>> passed, but DMARC failed. Mxtoolbox.com is a great way to see why emails=
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>> fsil.=0A=
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>> Harold=0A=
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>> On Fri, November 7, 2025 5:16 pm, David Carlson wrote:=0A=
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>>> I think the problem is not with the GnuCash maillist, but with your=0A=
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>> email=0A=
>>> service.  When an email that you consider to not be spam ends up in=0A=
>> your=0A=
>>> spam folder, there should be a way to tell your provider that you do=0A=
>> not=0A=
>>> consider it to be spam.=0A=
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>>> On Thu, Nov 6, 2025 at 6:46=C3=A2=C2=80=C2=AFPM * Neustradamus *=0A=
>>> <[email protected]>=0A=
>>> wrote:=0A=
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>>>> Dear GnuCash team,=0A=
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>>>> Can you solve the problem of e-mails always detected in "Junk=0A=
>>>> Emails"/"Spams" folder?=0A=
>>>> SPF/DKIM/DMARC=0A=
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>>>> For example, a part of logs:=0A=
>>>> ...=0A=
>>>> ARC-Seal: i=3D2; a=3Drsa-sha256; s=3Darcselector10001; d=3Dmicrosoft.c=
om;=0A=
>>>> cv=3Dfail; ... ARC-Authentication-Results: i=3D2; mx.microsoft.com 1;=
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>>>> spf=3Dpass=0A=
>> (sender ip=0A=
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>>>> is XXX.XXX.XXX.XX) smtp.rcpttodomain=3Dhotmail.com=0A=
>>>> smtp.mailfrom=3Dgnucash.org; dmarc=3Dfail (p=3Dnone sp=3Dquarantine=0A=
>>>> pct=3D100) action=3Dnone header.from=3Doutlook.com; dkim=3Dfail (signa=
ture=0A=
>>>> did not verify) header.d=3Doutlook.com; arc=3Dfail (47) ...=0A=
>>>> Authentication-Results: spf=3Dpass (sender IP is XXX.XXX.XXX.XX)=0A=
>>>> smtp.mailfrom=3Dgnucash.org; dkim=3Dfail (signature did not verify)=0A=
>>>> header.d=3Doutlook.com;dmarc=3Dfail action=3Dnone=0A=
>>>> header.from=3Doutlook.com; Received-SPF: Pass (protection.outlook.com:=
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>>>> domain of gnucash.org designates XXX.XXX.XXX.XX as permitted sender)=
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>>>>  receiver=3Dprotection.outlook.com; client-ip=3DXXX.XXX.XXX.XX;=0A=
>>>> helo=3Dcode.gnucash.org; pr=3DC ...=0A=
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>>>> Thanks in advance.=0A=
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>>>> Regards,=0A=
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>>>> Neustradamus=0A=
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