[GNC] gnucash-user Digest, Vol 279, Issue 31

Thank you for the reply and likely cause.

I updated my system two days ago (sudo zypper dup) and still have the 
problem. The Gnucash version I have, which is the version in the current 
openSUSE-Tumbleweed-Oss repository, is 5.13-3.4 (V. 5.13; Build ID 
5.13+(2025-09-27); Finance::Quote). Do you have a suggestion for where 
to get a newer update compatible with the latest update of openSUSE 
Tumbleweed?

My current OS version of software is:

    openSUSE Tumbleweed: 20260612
    KDE Plasma v: 6.6.5
    KDE Frameworks v: 6.26.0
    Qt v: 6.11.1
    Kernel v: 7.0.12-1-default (64 bit)
    Graphics Platform: X11

For those who asked for details on when this happens -- Any time a 
payment is attempted for a posted invoice, regardless of how that 
payment is entered.

Thank you,

Richard

On 6/16/26 12:00, [email protected] wrote:
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 11:31:18 -0700
> From: Sherlock<[email protected]>
> To:[email protected]
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Fw: Help - Re: Gnucash Crash when Paying invoices
> Message-ID:<[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> Hi Richard,
>
> I suspect this is a known issue introduced in 5.13.  To confirm you may
> revert to 5.12 or update to a more recent version.
>
> Regards,
>
> Sherlock
>
> On 6/14/26 7:48 PM, Liz wrote:
>> I am forwarding this to the list, it having gone to the wrong addresses.
>> [email protected] is the correct address.
>>
>>
>> Begin forwarded message:
>>
>> Date: Sun, 14 Jun 2026 13:29:51 -0400
>> From: "J. Richard Herbert"<[email protected]>
>> To:[email protected],[email protected]
>> Subject: Help - Re: Gnucash Crash when Paying invoices
>>
>>
>> Hi again,
>>
>> My bookkeeping is light, so I waited for a bit and updated my OpenSuse
>> Tumbleweed today. then went to gnucash and have the same problem where
>> trying to pay invoices results in a crash. According to today?s update
>> I am on 5.13-3.4.
>>
>> What can I do to move through this problem? Do you already have a
>> solution?
>>
>> Please, II do need help as I have years of bookkeeping in Gnucash.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Richard
>>
>> Dr. J. Richard G. HerbertB. SC., D.V.M.
>>
>> Chief Executive Officer
>> Christian Aboriginal Infrastructure Developments
>> A Not-for-profit Charitable NGO
>> Cell: 807-629-4490? ? ?Fax: 1-866-722-5251
>> [email protected] www.caid.ca
>>
>> /*?My hours of work may be different from yours ? you are not obligated
>> to reply to my email outside your normal work hours."*/
>>
>> _Confidentiality Warning:_ Contents of this email and attached
>> documents are confidential. If you are not an intended recipient of
>> this email, please delete this email and documents attached to it from
>> your email application.
>>
>> On 6/14/26 13:26, J. Richard Herbert wrote:
>>> Hi again,
>>>
>>> My bookkeeping is light, so I waited for a bit and updated my
>>> OpenSuse Tumbleweed today. then went to gnucash and have the same
>>> problem where trying to pay invoices results in a crash. According to
>>> today?s update I am on 5.13-3.4.
>>>
>>> What can I do to move through this problem? Do you already have a
>>> solution?
>>>
>>> Please, II do need help as I have years of bookkeeping in Gnucash.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>>
>>> /*?My hours of work may be different from yours ? you are not
>>> obligated to reply to my email outside your normal work hours."*/
>>>
>>> _Confidentiality Warning:_ Contents of this email and attached
>>> documents are confidential. If you are not an intended recipient of
>>> this email, please delete this email and documents attached to it
>>> from your email application.
>>>
>>> On 3/28/26 21:07, J. Richard Herbert wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> The CAID_GNU_25-26.gnucash file I am using was created on another of
>>>> my computers that has a different username. Can this be the cause of
>>>> the build-id traoubles seen in the crash report? If so, how to I fix
>>>> the problem.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks for consideration on this.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
>>>>
>>>> On 3/26/26 1:54 AM, J. Richard Herbert wrote:
>>>>> I have also tried:
>>>>>
>>>>>    1. To return to an earlier save point to then begin with not
>>>>>       duplicating the bill. I was able to get this to work once but in
>>>>>       the multiple attempts to pay other vendor bills, I have failed.
>>>>>       I do not know if I did something different for the one time that
>>>>>       payment worked.
>>>>>    2. To manually put the payment into Acc Payable and then right
>>>>>       click on it to choose Assign Payment. Again crash
>>>>>
>>>>> On 3/25/26 17:18, J. Richard Herbert wrote:
>>>>>> I should point at that:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>    1. In Preferences -> Accounts under Default Currency, I have
>>>>>>       toggled Choose and Chosen Canadian
>>>>>>    2. I did not have a problem paying a a posted invoice with a
>>>>>>       previously entered Vendor
>>>>>>    3. I entered a new Vendor and the currency is Canadian
>>>>>>    4. I then duplicated an invoice from a similar vendor to save time
>>>>>>       setting the invoice... but changed the vendor name when doing
>>>>>> so. 5. I alter amounts and back dated when I posted
>>>>>>    6. Then I could not pay the invoice due to crashing.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 3/25/26 17:04, J. Richard Herbert wrote:
>>>>>>> Crash when paying posted invoices:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I fell behind in bookkeeping and started catching up today. I
>>>>>>> cannot pay posted invoices. When I click to have the payment
>>>>>>> accepted Gnucash crashes. I have tried through vendors to process
>>>>>>> a payment, from the posted invoice, and from the pop-up that
>>>>>>> opens to process a payment when I start up gnucash. I updated the
>>>>>>> computer today to see if an update would help (zypper dup), but
>>>>>>> have the same problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I am working in OpenSuse Tumbleweed with KDE Plasma (see
>>>>>>> attached) operating in Btrfs and file storage in ext4. The
>>>>>>> Gnucash version is 5.13 (see attached). Although, the Gnucash
>>>>>>> version was updated when the computer updated. The last time I
>>>>>>> can be certain Gnucash worked was July 2025 (I fell far behind
>>>>>>> with bookkeeping). I have also attached the crash report.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> When I have to scrub, I bring forward the ~/.local/share/gnucash
>>>>>>> directory with its contents when I need to do a reinstall (which
>>>>>>> is not the issue here).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Please, help.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -- 
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Richard Herbert
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> _Confidentiality Warning:_ Contents of this email and attached
>>>>>>> documents are confidential. If you are not an intended recipient
>>>>>>> of this email, please delete this email and documents attached to
>>>>>>> it from your email application.
>>>>>>>    
>>>>>>>
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>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 15:44:37 -0400
> From: "Kalpesh Patel"<[email protected]>
> To:<[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Other software
> Message-ID:<[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain;	charset="utf-8"
>
> IMHO, an acceptable email might be a "New version of XYZ released. See ABC site for details." should be acceptable as a broadcast caveated that it is part of GNUCASH, uses first-person by-products of gnucash, or refers to a product that facilitates a niche issue related to gnucash.
>
> I definitely would not want this board - named as gnucash-users - should be a used for anything other than gnucash discussion.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Adrien Monteleone<[email protected]> 
> Sent: Sunday, June 14, 2026 12:39 PM
> To:[email protected]
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Other software
>
> Tough call.
>
> Wm & Patrick both have valid points for sure.
>
> I too am generally fine with announcements, but ongoing discussion could be a problem.
>
> If only open source projects are allowed, I could see that as reasonable, with the caveat that topics or discussion outside of how this 3rd party project is used *with GnuCash* are out of scope.
>
> They shouldn't leach or hi-jack this list as a substitute for independent support and should themselves urge users to partake of their own offered channels.
>
> I'm also fine if you bar all such topics/announcements, at least from the creators.
>
> If regular users alert someone in a relevant reply to a particular resource, that's a different matter. (such as in reply to a feature request, someone posts a link to one of these projects that already fits the bill. Any discussion thereof is in a limited context and should not
> metastasize.)
>
> Regards,
> Adrien
>
> On 6/14/26 12:09 AM, Liz wrote:
>> I have had another request for publication of information regarding
>> other software which could be used in conjunction with Gnucash.
>>
>> So far this is on hold.
>>
>> Following the previous use of this list to advertise other software I
>> am considering a total ban so there would be no leniency according to
>> licence eg GPL passes and proprietary is not allowed.
>>
>> Please feel free to comment.
>>
>> Liz
>>
>> Moderator hat
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 15 Jun 2026 17:37:03 -0400
> From: Michael or Penny Novack<[email protected]>
> To:[email protected]
> Subject: Re: [GNC] Reimbursement for fraud
> Message-ID:<[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed
>
> I will make no assumptions, not enough information to give you an
> answer. And of course this is really an accounting question. You also
> need to tell us if books cash basis or accrual basis (business features).
>
> WHAT WAS THE ORIGINAL TRANSACTION? The original credit was to the credit
> card, but the debit was to account X?? NOW when you are reimbursed the
> debit will be to the credit card (if they did it that way) or to cash
> (if they did it that way) and the credit will be to account X. NOT
> INCOME. Reimbursement of an expense is not income.
>
> This is for cash basis.
>
>
>
> Michael D Novack
>
>
>
>
> On 6/14/2026 11:06 PM, David T. via gnucash-user wrote:
>> I am assuming that this fraud took some time to straighten out, and > there were amounts on your books for a stretch of time before it all
>   > cleared up. You want your accounts to look like that. > > First, I'd
> void the original credit card payment with a note about > the fraud,
> since it never went through. > > Next, I'd create a transaction for the
> fraudulent amount to a new > expense account Expenses:Fraud. > >
> Finally, when the money was recovered and returned, I'd enter a >
> transaction from Expenses:Fraud back to your checking account. > >
> IANAA, YMMV, IYKYK, IDKS, TKKKHITLLLH* David T. > > * I made that one up
> for "To know know know him, is to love love > love him" > > On June 15,
> 2026 5:47:47 AM GMT+05:30, "Stan Brown (using GC 4.14)" >
> <[email protected]> wrote: >> On 2026-06-14 10:20, Robert Putman
> wrote: >>> I had a check to a credit card company that was washed and
>   >>> cashed by someone else. We reported it as fraud and was >>>
> eventually repaid. How do I record this in GnuCash so that it >>>
> doesn't appear as income but that will balance in GnuCash? >> >> If I
> understand you correctly, you did not actually lose (or gain) >> any
> money by this episode of check fraud. >> >> In that case, you don't have
> to record anything, since you had no >> income or expense and none of
> your assets or liabilities changed >> in value. >> >> If you want to
> record _something_ for historical purposes, you can >> enter a
> transaction with no transfer account and no amounts. GC is >> quite
> happy to accept such transactions and then you'll have a >> record in
> your checking account register in case some time in the >> future you
> need to know when this happened/ >> >> Stan Brown Tehachapi, CA, USA
> https://BrownMath.com >> _______________________________________________
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