Re: Feature requests: use Monitor colour profile, and deleting directories...

Alan Horkan <[email protected]> Sat, 18 Nov 2006 21:49:54 +0000 (GMT)
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.apps.gqview.devel
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Fri, 17 Nov 2006, John Ellis wrote:

> Alan Horkan wrote:
>
> [extra quoting removed]
>
> > Closed as duplicate of #1439244
> > [ 1439244 ] delete directory function
> > https://sourceforge.net/tracker/index.php?func=detail&aid=1439244&group_id=4050&atid=354050
> >
> >>From the looks of it there is a delete directory/folder* feature but we've
> > not noticed it and it doesn't behave exactly as you might expect.  I am
>
> The delete folder feature is only 3 hours old (as of this writing),

I didn't realise it was so recent.  I thought maybe I had missed it last
time I played with a recent build. (I also thought I had looked at the
date but I must have looked at the duplicate not the patch report.)

> I had just updated that feature request with the patch before closing
> it. Prior to this there was no way to find the feature as it did not
> exist.

> I do not understand the comment about 'behaving as you would expect'.

If I read the report correctly it only allows for deleting empty folders
(I reread the report again today and I see now more clearly it will not
delete a folder with any subfolders) which while safe and cautious and
probably a good idea it is not what I might expect from my experience with
other programs.

> > always at great pains to remind developers that features need to
> > discoverable and including things in the context menu should only be an
> > optional extra, as it has both usability and accessibility issues.
>
> Well, right now the folder context menu contains 4 functions that can not
> be easily done in another way by the user, for 3 of those it is the only
> method of activation.

I understand the existing choices of GQView might make it difficult to
offer the feature anywhere else.

> > I prefer to delete to the Trash/Recycle Bin but then inevitably you will

> The first problem is that GQview does not follow the trash standard (is
> there an official one? the one at freedesktop.org appears different than
> what I see nautilus doing).

Perhaps the standard isn't quite as "standard" as I thought, can be
difficult to tell when a Freedesktop.org spec is more than just a draft.
http://freedesktop.org/wiki/Standards_2ftrash_2dspec
http://www.ramendik.ru/docs/trashspec.html

KDE uses a folder ~/Trash and I thought Gnome also used it but perhaps I
am mistaken.  (I'd check but I'm not at a suitable computer at the
moment.)

> You can set it to ~/.Trash but that's not the default as I do not want
> GQview to compete with/clobber the user's standard trash mechanism.

I'll try it and get back to you if it causes any problems.

> The second problem is that not everyone will be running a trash aware
> desktop,

hmmm.

> > * Folder is the recommended term in Gnome, for what it is worth and if I
>
> GQview uses 'folder' everywhere (if not, it's a bug).

Just that developers and old skool unix users tend to call it a directory
rather than a folder and I didn't want to go through the entire post
writing folder/directory.  No criticism of gqview implied or intended.

> Well, I fixed the summary but it sure would be much easier if the tracker
> had a way of marking one bug a duplicate of another (and anyone monitoring
> the duplicate bug was then updated with the original bug too).

Bugzilla has flaws but the sourceforge tracker is definately worse.  The
division of bugs, requests, and patches, doesn't really work for me.
Marking bugs as duplicates and tieing them togethers asks a little more of
the person closing the bug but it is totally worth it.  Having said that
the service is great value for money and I'm very grateful to sourceforge.

-- 
Alan

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