Project status and proposal
Gonzalo Aguilar Delgado <[email protected]> Thu, 3 Aug 2017 19:25:35 +0200
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Hello all,
I was reading lasts emails from archive. Since I cannot respond the
Alexandre e-mail I decided to open a new thread to not mix things.
It seems you are in the road to rewritting this wonderful piece of
software that so many happines gave me in the past. So I can see if I
can do something for the tool. Since the Gantt chart seems to be a
problem I propose:
1. Do it in Gdk - Cairo like baobab is doing. This should gave us
threaded animations (nice feature) on gantt chart for free.
1. I saw how to draw gantt charts by hacking data on a barchart. So
if a library for barcharts is available I can hack a demo very
fast...
2. Since clutter will be mainstreamed and rebranded as GSK. I can also
try to do something directly in GSK. That looks nice for the purpose
(if ready).
1. Other mean is to try with clutter then port to GSK.
What do you think?
I also moved to meson all my projects for building. The difference is
GREAT. Compilation times and manageability are exceptional. And you
don't have to wait 20 minutes for a build... I think it would be a win.
Everyone is also moving.
About the use of Vala... will you reconsider it? Lot of wonderful
projects are written in vala (gnome-builder for instance) and it's
working nice. And no I don't think it will dissapear. Specially if we
use it.
I did some hacking on baobab to add support for ceph and it was nice.
Really. It saves a lot of time. Specially when you have to define the
class init and object init functions, callbacks and so on. It has a lot
of advantages.
About new features... I think the same than Andrew Miloradovsky. Maybe
is not time for it. But giving a chance for new features it can give a
boost to the project (but also kill it :-( ). Maybe new developers
join... So we can propose, then it should be implemented... if possible.
So I propose the following:
1. Add a Kanban style chart for the tasks. Grouped on milestones and
with status depending if it has a resource or not, but also if
someone has advanced it based on progress.
2. Add Scrum backlog based on the tasks. And maybe grouped on sprints.
3. Some progress reporting reports would be nice to have.
The agile development methodologies are advancing but the tools to
manage them are not. Also agile methodologies have a problem when
planning longterm. Thats why I use planner for the longterm management,
but then I pass the tasks and milestones to a Scrum based tool where I
get day to day (sprint to sprint) backlog and progress.
This could be a great win for the project and merging the best of both
worlds can be a win. Cause the tools I see for Agile are specific for
it. Not using a merge of Agile and traditional. And can give the project
new visibility.
That's it. I know it's too much for first email hope I don't disturb
much with it.
Best regards,
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<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Hello all, <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I was reading lasts
emails from archive. Since I cannot respond the Alexandre e-mail
I decided to open a new thread to not mix things. <br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">It seems you are in the
road to rewritting this wonderful piece of software that so many
happines gave me in the past. So I can see if I can do something
for the tool. Since the Gantt chart seems to be a problem I
propose:</font></p>
<ol>
<li><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Do it in Gdk - Cairo
like baobab is doing. This should gave us threaded animations
(nice feature) on gantt chart for free.</font></li>
<ol>
<li><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I saw how to draw
gantt charts by hacking data on a barchart. So if a library
for barcharts is available I can hack a demo very fast...<br>
</font></li>
</ol>
<li><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Since clutter will
be mainstreamed and rebranded as GSK. I can also try to do
something directly in GSK. That looks nice for the purpose (if
ready).</font></li>
<ol>
<li><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">Other mean is to
try with clutter then port to GSK. <br>
</font></li>
</ol>
</ol>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">What do you think?</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I also moved to meson
all my projects for building. The difference is GREAT.
Compilation times and manageability are exceptional. And you
don't have to wait 20 minutes for a build... I think it would be
a win. Everyone is also moving.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">About the use of
Vala... will you reconsider it? Lot of wonderful projects are
written in vala (gnome-builder for instance) and it's working
nice. And no I don't think it will dissapear. Specially if we
use it.<br>
</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">I did some hacking on
baobab to add support for ceph and it was nice. Really. It saves
a lot of time. Specially when you have to define the class init
and object init functions, callbacks and so on. It has a lot of
advantages.</font></p>
<p><font face="Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif">About new features... I
think the same than </font>Andrew Miloradovsky. Maybe is not
time for it. But giving a chance for new features it can give a
boost to the project (but also kill it :-( ). Maybe new developers
join... So we can propose, then it should be implemented... if
possible.</p>
<p>So I propose the following:</p>
<ol>
<li>Add a Kanban style chart for the tasks. Grouped on milestones
and with status depending if it has a resource or not, but also
if someone has advanced it based on progress.</li>
<li>Add Scrum backlog based on the tasks. And maybe grouped on
sprints.</li>
<li>Some progress reporting reports would be nice to have.<br>
</li>
</ol>
<p>The agile development methodologies are advancing but the tools
to manage them are not. Also agile methodologies have a problem
when planning longterm. Thats why I use planner for the longterm
management, but then I pass the tasks and milestones to a Scrum
based tool where I get day to day (sprint to sprint) backlog and
progress.</p>
<p>This could be a great win for the project and merging the best of
both worlds can be a win. Cause the tools I see for Agile are
specific for it. Not using a merge of Agile and traditional. And
can give the project new visibility.<br>
</p>
<p>That's it. I know it's too much for first email hope I don't
disturb much with it.</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p>Best regards,<br>
</p>
<p><br>
</p>
<p><br>
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