Re: Planner-list How to do only one thing at a time ?

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Xsld and list;

On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 09:50 xisd via planner-list <[email protected]>
wrote:

> Hello fellow planners !
>
> I just started using planner and am trying to plan a simple project that
> I will be doing in the next few month.
>
> Dependency between task works great, even if I would like to be able to
> tell planner that some task can't be divided  : if "go buy something"
> takes 4h and there is only 1h left today after previous task, I won't be
> sleeping in my car halfway, I will start it tomorrow... but I manage by
> adjusting durations.
>

It would be lovely to be able to say of a task "must be completed in a
given day or week or month or..." and then have it not start til the next
day if hours remaining were insufficient.

As far as I know not possible in planner. But I haven't looked into that
kind of thing.


> The thing that bothers me is when tasks are not dependent but don't
> account for the time I spend doing them...
> Let me clarify : I do no need to do "task 1" to start "task 2", but that
> doesn't mean that I can do both at the same time.
> I would expect "as soon as possible" to take that into account but
> planner still shows the 2 tasks being done at the same time.
>
> Am I doing something wrong ?
>
> I tried using resources to prevent that :
> Since I will be the only one working on this, I created a work resource
> called "Me".
> But if I assign "Me" as a resource to "task 1" and "task 2"... each one
> use 100% of it, and so 200% of "Me" is used at the same time.
> Poor "Me" is not capable of that. :)
>
> Is there a way to manage this particular issue ?
>

When you define tasks that aren't related / dependent then planner assumes
you wish to complete them in parallel.

If you're not prepared to work 200% on the two tasks and you don't care
which is done first then set your availability to 50% on both.

>
> Manually setting the date seems messy since it would have to be done
> again every time there is a change in the plan.
>

Better to add a dependency.

>
> Artificially linking tasks that have nothing to do with one another have
> a very great cost of readability
>

Think about what you're asking for - you want planner to decide which to do
first. On what basis would it choose? How would it choose the same
sequencing each time you start it up?

Sounds like you might want to look into a standalone optimizer to do some
task levelling for you, and set the start and end dates.

>
> Thanks for your help
>

Nice to see some discussion on this list. Planner is a fine and simple
planning tool.

Chris

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<div dir=3D"auto"><div>Xsld and list;<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><di=
v dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Tue, Dec 3, 2019, 09:50 xisd via plan=
ner-list &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]=
rg</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margi=
n:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Hello fellow plan=
ners !<br>
<br>
I just started using planner and am trying to plan a simple project that<br=
>
I will be doing in the next few month.<br>
<br>
Dependency between task works great, even if I would like to be able to<br>
tell planner that some task can&#39;t be divided=C2=A0 : if &quot;go buy so=
mething&quot;<br>
takes 4h and there is only 1h left today after previous task, I won&#39;t b=
e<br>
sleeping in my car halfway, I will start it tomorrow... but I manage by<br>
adjusting durations.<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">It would be lovely to be able to say of a task &quot;mu=
st be completed in a given day or week or month or...&quot; and then have i=
t not start til the next day if hours remaining were insufficient.</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">As far as I know not possible in=
 planner. But I haven&#39;t looked into that kind of thing.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquot=
e class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc sol=
id;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
The thing that bothers me is when tasks are not dependent but don&#39;t<br>
account for the time I spend doing them...<br>
Let me clarify : I do no need to do &quot;task 1&quot; to start &quot;task =
2&quot;, but that<br>
doesn&#39;t mean that I can do both at the same time.<br>
I would expect &quot;as soon as possible&quot; to take that into account bu=
t<br>
planner still shows the 2 tasks being done at the same time.<br>
<br>
Am I doing something wrong ?<br>
<br>
I tried using resources to prevent that :<br>
Since I will be the only one working on this, I created a work resource<br>
called &quot;Me&quot;.<br>
But if I assign &quot;Me&quot; as a resource to &quot;task 1&quot; and &quo=
t;task 2&quot;... each one<br>
use 100% of it, and so 200% of &quot;Me&quot; is used at the same time.<br>
Poor &quot;Me&quot; is not capable of that. :)<br>
<br>
Is there a way to manage this particular issue ?<br></blockquote></div></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">When you define tasks that =
aren&#39;t related / dependent then planner assumes you wish to complete th=
em in parallel.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">If you&#=
39;re not prepared to work 200% on the two tasks and you don&#39;t care whi=
ch is done first then set your availability to 50% on both.</div><div dir=
=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" styl=
e=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Manually setting the date seems messy since it would have to be done<br>
again every time there is a change in the plan.<br></blockquote></div></div=
><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Better to add a dependency.<=
/div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><blockquote class=3D"gmai=
l_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left=
:1ex">
<br>
Artificially linking tasks that have nothing to do with one another have<br=
>
a very great cost of readability<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"au=
to"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Think about what you&#39;re asking for - yo=
u want planner to decide which to do first. On what basis would it choose? =
How would it choose the same sequencing each time you start it up?</div><di=
v dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D"auto">Sounds like you might want to lo=
ok into a standalone optimizer to do some task levelling for you, and set t=
he start and end dates.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><div class=3D"gmail_quote"><=
blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px=
 #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<br>
Thanks for your help<br></blockquote></div></div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></di=
v><div dir=3D"auto">Nice to see some discussion on this list. Planner is a =
fine and simple planning tool.</div><div dir=3D"auto"><br></div><div dir=3D=
"auto">Chris</div></div>

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