Merci Frédéric!

Sebastian Gießmann <sebastian.giessmann-WXUavD9NMJO+PZQmV3kfY2frygkm6VTR@public.gmane.org> Tue, 08 Apr 2008 19:04:43 +0200
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Hello Fr=E9d=E9ric,

thank you for your awesome work on Pybliographer! It's still my favorite=20
BibTeX frontend for Linux and I do miss it on the Macintosh.

Grateful,
Sebastian

pybliographer-general-request-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org schrieb:
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 22:34:26 +0100
> From: " Fr?d?ric Gobry " <[email protected]>
> Subject: [pyblio] I consider orphaning pybliographer
> To: "Pyblio General" <pybliographer-general-5NWGOfrQmneRv+LV9MX5uipxlwaOVQ5f@public.gmane.org>
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> Good evening!
>
> I've been working on pybliographer for a while now. Unfortunately I
> don't use it personally anymore, which limits my incentive to continue
> to do so. Recently, I've used it to try out different design and
> technologies (on how to adapt various databases, how to use twisted
> for querying external databases,...) which might not have been for the
> direct benefit of the users.
>
> The global shape of the code, imho, is the following:
>
>  * 1.2 is definitely usable, but prone to bit rot: it has no decent
> tests, and some design choices limit the evolution of the code base. I
> definitely don't fancy working on it as it doesn't make it possible to
> run the experiments I'm interested in
>  * 1.3 is interesting and seems sane in terms of design. I've been
> recently working on the following things:
>      * new external queries: arXiv is half done
>      * a BibTeX bst engine, so that 1.3 is able to reuse and extend
> legacy bibtex formats (and integrate them in openoffice for instance)
>      * a new interface to modify bibtex files programatically (much
> simpler than the current one, no loss on parts that are not modified
> even if they cannot be interpreted fully)
>
> However, I definitely don't have the time to make a _product_ out of
> 1.3, which is a shame. I definitely feel that people that would have a
> need for the features could jump in and move the code from "proof of
> concept" to "usable". I'm definitely ready to help them out and spend
> some time documenting things, explaining, fixing random things, but
> either I or the code turned off most of those few who were interested
> in the codebase. So, despite interesting discussions (hi Zoltan, hi
> Peter !), today it costs me more frustration than satisfaction.
>
> So I'd like to plan either the handing off or the retirement of
> pybliographer. From my perspective, this means:
>
>   * I'll be here to help out as much as possible until the end of
> 2008, but won't start any new effort
>   * I'll then consider myself a simple subscriber to the ml and
> advertise the fact the the project is frozen, to avoid misleading
> potential users
>   * I won't renew the domain name (in 2011, this gives some time :)),
> unless someone has taken over the project by then
>
> Thanks to all of those who contributed, either code, translation,
> support, comments. This has been an interesting experience!
>
> Cheers,
>  =20


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