Re: GNOME Bugmail: Gmail threading finally working!

"Jasper St. Pierre" <[email protected]> Wed, 12 Dec 2012 15:47:26 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.bugsquad,gmane.comp.gnome.desktop
Message-ID <CAA0H+QTdw_vob7ZK_V15gEc8TCnmb3uP7iNn=udbwCRokaMr7A@mail.gmail.com>
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So, one, GMail's Conversation View *isn't* threading. A conversation is
centered around a subject or topic. If that subject changes, GMail opens up
a separate conversation. For instance, the "Upgrade Bugzilla" is a separate
subject than "Gmail threading finally working!". This is a feature, not a
bug, as many people just mash "Reply All" to start a new topic.

If you're curious as to the horrors of the headers, jwz has a long post
here:

  http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html

There are people trying to implement the GMail Conversation View in e.g.
Thunderbird, who say why the headers aren't good, or how they fail:

  https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/What-is-threading


On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Andre Klapper <[email protected]> wrote:

> Examples / references welcome.
>
> On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 15:27 -0500, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:
> > Various people have documented why the header is broken, and thus why
> gmail
> > doesn't care about or use it.
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Dodji Seketeli <[email protected]>
> wrote:
> >
> > >
> > > Whoah!  The proper way to handle this would be to have Gmail actually
> > > support the 'References' header.
> >
> >
> > _______________________________________________
> > desktop-devel-list mailing list
> > [email protected]
> > https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list
>
> --
> Andre Klapper  |  [email protected]
> http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/
>
>


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So, one, GMail&#39;s Conversation View *isn&#39;t* threading. A conversatio=
n is centered around a subject or topic. If that subject changes, GMail ope=
ns up a separate conversation. For instance, the &quot;Upgrade Bugzilla&quo=
t; is a separate subject than &quot;Gmail threading finally working!&quot;.=
 This is a feature, not a bug, as many people just mash &quot;Reply All&quo=
t; to start a new topic.<br>
<br>If you&#39;re curious as to the horrors of the headers, jwz has a long =
post here:<br><br>=A0 <a href=3D"http://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html">htt=
p://www.jwz.org/doc/threading.html</a><br><br>There are people trying to im=
plement the GMail Conversation View in e.g. Thunderbird, who say why the he=
aders aren&#39;t good, or how they fail:<br>
<br>=A0 <a href=3D"https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/Wh=
at-is-threading">https://github.com/protz/GMail-Conversation-View/wiki/What=
-is-threading</a><br><div class=3D"gmail_extra"><br><br><div class=3D"gmail=
_quote">
On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 3:41 PM, Andre Klapper <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a hre=
f=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> w=
rote:<br><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin:0 0 0 .8ex;borde=
r-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Examples / references welcome.<br>
<div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Wed, 2012-12-12 at 15:27 -0500, Jasper St. Pierre wrote:<br>
&gt; Various people have documented why the header is broken, and thus why =
gmail<br>
&gt; doesn&#39;t care about or use it.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Wed, Dec 12, 2012 at 11:32 AM, Dodji Seketeli &lt;<a href=3D"mailto=
:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; &gt;<br>
&gt; &gt; Whoah! =A0The proper way to handle this would be to have Gmail ac=
tually<br>
&gt; &gt; support the &#39;References&#39; header.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt;<br>
</div></div><div class=3D"HOEnZb"><div class=3D"h5">&gt; __________________=
_____________________________<br>
&gt; desktop-devel-list mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">desktop-devel-list@gno=
me.org</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-list"=
 target=3D"_blank">https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/desktop-devel-li=
st</a><br>
<br>
</div></div><span class=3D"HOEnZb"><font color=3D"#888888">--<br>
Andre Klapper =A0| =A0<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a><br=
>
<a href=3D"http://blogs.gnome.org/aklapper/" target=3D"_blank">http://blogs=
.gnome.org/aklapper/</a><br>
<br>
</font></span></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br>=A0 Jaspe=
r<br><br>
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