Re: Is beagle completely dead now?

Joel Mandell <[email protected]> Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:45:07 +0100
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.dashboard.devel
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I have always been following this project, and it meant so much for me cause
my desktop usually are a mess organization-wise.

BTW Wasn't it you lukas that made the "Holmes"-gui?

Would love to eventually fix the Evolution filter in Util/Evolution.cs. I
can send patches to dbera right?

peace!
-joel m aka dikatlon

On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Lukas Lipka <[email protected]> wrote:

> I don't mean to sound nostalgic, but back then Beagle was one of the
> best and fun projects to hack on!
>
> L.
>
> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Joe Shaw <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hi Adam,
> >
> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Adam Tauno Williams
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>> A major reason why I gave up on Beagle and
> >>> the whole Linux desktop itself was due to this attitude.  I guess the
> >>> developers of those apps are more thick skinned or resilient than I
> >>> was?  I don't know.
> >>
> >> Time is also probably a factor, Beagle was AFAIK really the first
> >> desktop Mono application of any note.  It was also ahead of its time as
> >> a concept [I recall no shortage of long rambling posts about how it was
> >> useless anyway].
> >
> > Indeed.  Writing a Mono application at the time was a... challenge.
> > Beagle surely had its own set of performance problems, and the tools
> > to profile and debug them were largely non-existent.  We even wrote a
> > few of them (heap-buddy, which has only recently been superseded by a
> > new built-in profiler).  I would have killed for a working debugger.
> > :)
> >
> > When Beagle was started, the concept was actually pretty clear to us.
> > We weren't looking to create a Spotlight for Linux (indeed, Beagle was
> > first publicly demoed on the day Apple announced Spotlight) -- it was
> > really designed as a means to an end: Dashboard needed an index to
> > make intelligent queries against and get contextual clues.  Beagle
> > really grew out of that need, and became a user-centric tool.
> >
> > Joe
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> > [email protected]
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> >
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I have always been following this project, and it meant so much for me caus=
e my desktop usually are a mess organization-wise.<br><br>BTW Wasn&#39;t it=
 you lukas that made the &quot;Holmes&quot;-gui?<br><br>Would love to event=
ually fix the Evolution filter in Util/Evolution.cs. I can send patches to =
dbera right?<br>

<br>peace!<br>-joel m aka dikatlon<br><br><div class=3D"gmail_quote">On Mon=
, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Lukas Lipka <span dir=3D"ltr">&lt;<a href=3D"mai=
lto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><bl=
ockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-l=
eft: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
I don&#39;t mean to sound nostalgic, but back then Beagle was one of the<br=
>
best and fun projects to hack on!<br>
<font color=3D"#888888"><br>
L.<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br>
On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Joe Shaw &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:joe@joeshaw=
.org">[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt; Hi Adam,<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Adam Tauno Williams<br>
&gt; &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</=
a>&gt; wrote:<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; A major reason why I gave up on Beagle and<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; the whole Linux desktop itself was due to this attitude. =A0I =
guess the<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; developers of those apps are more thick skinned or resilient t=
han I<br>
&gt;&gt;&gt; was? =A0I don&#39;t know.<br>
&gt;&gt;<br>
&gt;&gt; Time is also probably a factor, Beagle was AFAIK really the first<=
br>
&gt;&gt; desktop Mono application of any note. =A0It was also ahead of its =
time as<br>
&gt;&gt; a concept [I recall no shortage of long rambling posts about how i=
t was<br>
&gt;&gt; useless anyway].<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Indeed. =A0Writing a Mono application at the time was a... challenge.<=
br>
&gt; Beagle surely had its own set of performance problems, and the tools<b=
r>
&gt; to profile and debug them were largely non-existent. =A0We even wrote =
a<br>
&gt; few of them (heap-buddy, which has only recently been superseded by a<=
br>
&gt; new built-in profiler). =A0I would have killed for a working debugger.=
<br>
&gt; :)<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; When Beagle was started, the concept was actually pretty clear to us.<=
br>
&gt; We weren&#39;t looking to create a Spotlight for Linux (indeed, Beagle=
 was<br>
&gt; first publicly demoed on the day Apple announced Spotlight) -- it was<=
br>
&gt; really designed as a means to an end: Dashboard needed an index to<br>
&gt; make intelligent queries against and get contextual clues. =A0Beagle<b=
r>
&gt; really grew out of that need, and became a user-centric tool.<br>
&gt;<br>
&gt; Joe<br>
&gt; _______________________________________________<br>
&gt; dashboard-hackers mailing list<br>
&gt; <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">dashboard-hackers@gnome=
.org</a><br>
&gt; <a href=3D"http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers" t=
arget=3D"_blank">http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers</=
a><br>
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