Re: Is beagle completely dead now?
Joel Mandell <[email protected]> Mon, 14 Feb 2011 23:10:59 +0100
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--===============0293742432== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=0016363106119b7812049c455263 --0016363106119b7812049c455263 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Allright, thanks for the pointer! I really like this codesnippet in Evolution.cs: " foreach (string shit in crap) folder_path = folder_path.Replace (shit, ""); " :=) On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Joe Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi, > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Joel Mandell <[email protected]> > wrote: > > Would love to eventually fix the Evolution filter in Util/Evolution.cs. I > > can send patches to dbera right? > > You can send patches to the list. I think I wrote the Evolution stuff > back in the day, so I might be able to remember some of the details. > :) > > At this point there's nobody really maintaining it, and the current > Evo stuff is old and broken so as long as you've tested it and feel > good about the code, go ahead and push it AFAIAC. > > Thanks, > Joe > > > > > peace! > > -joel m aka dikatlon > > > > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Lukas Lipka <[email protected]> > wrote: > >> > >> I don't mean to sound nostalgic, but back then Beagle was one of the > >> best and fun projects to hack on! > >> > >> L. > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Joe Shaw <[email protected]> wrote: > >> > Hi Adam, > >> > > >> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Adam Tauno Williams > >> > <[email protected]> wrote: > >> >>> A major reason why I gave up on Beagle and > >> >>> the whole Linux desktop itself was due to this attitude. I guess > the > >> >>> developers of those apps are more thick skinned or resilient than I > >> >>> was? I don't know. > >> >> > >> >> Time is also probably a factor, Beagle was AFAIK really the first > >> >> desktop Mono application of any note. It was also ahead of its time > as > >> >> a concept [I recall no shortage of long rambling posts about how it > was > >> >> useless anyway]. > >> > > >> > Indeed. Writing a Mono application at the time was a... challenge. > >> > Beagle surely had its own set of performance problems, and the tools > >> > to profile and debug them were largely non-existent. We even wrote a > >> > few of them (heap-buddy, which has only recently been superseded by a > >> > new built-in profiler). I would have killed for a working debugger. > >> > :) > >> > > >> > When Beagle was started, the concept was actually pretty clear to us. > >> > We weren't looking to create a Spotlight for Linux (indeed, Beagle was > >> > first publicly demoed on the day Apple announced Spotlight) -- it was > >> > really designed as a means to an end: Dashboard needed an index to > >> > make intelligent queries against and get contextual clues. Beagle > >> > really grew out of that need, and became a user-centric tool. > >> > > >> > Joe > >> > _______________________________________________ > >> > dashboard-hackers mailing list > >> > [email protected] > >> > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers > >> > > >> _______________________________________________ > >> dashboard-hackers mailing list > >> [email protected] > >> http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers > > > > > > > > -- > > Web: > > http://www.openzource.org > > > > Cellphone: > > 0722-137374 > > > > > > _______________________________________________ > > dashboard-hackers mailing list > > [email protected] > > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers > > > > > -- *Web: * http://www.openzource.org *Cellphone: * 0722-137374 --0016363106119b7812049c455263 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Allright, thanks for the pointer!<br><br>I really like this codesnippet in = Evolution.cs:<br><br><div style=3D"margin-left: 40px;">=A0"<br></div><= pre><code> <span class=3D"hl kwa">foreach</span> <span class=3D"hl sym">(= </span><span class=3D"hl kwb">string</span> shit in crap<span class=3D"hl s= ym">)</span><br> folder_path <span class=3D"hl sym">=3D</span> folder_path<span class=3D= "hl sym">.</span><span class=3D"hl kwd">Replace</span> <span class=3D"hl sy= m">(</span>shit<span class=3D"hl sym">,</span> <span class=3D"hl str">"= ;"</span><span class=3D"hl sym">);<br> <br></span></code></pre><div style=3D"margin-left: 40px;"><code><span class= =3D"hl sym">"</span></code><br><br></div>:=3D)<br><div style=3D"margin= -left: 40px;"><code><span class=3D"hl sym"></span></code></div><br><div cla= ss=3D"gmail_quote"> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 10:50 PM, Joe Shaw <span dir=3D"ltr"><<a href=3D= "mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquo= te class=3D"gmail_quote" style=3D"margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1= px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi,<br> <div class=3D"im"><br> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 4:45 PM, Joel Mandell <<a href=3D"mailto:joelman= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> > Would love to eventually fix the Evolution filter in Util/Evolution.cs= . I<br> > can send patches to dbera right?<br> <br> </div>You can send patches to the list. =A0I think I wrote the Evolution st= uff<br> back in the day, so I might be able to remember some of the details.<br> :)<br> <br> At this point there's nobody really maintaining it, and the current<br> Evo stuff is old and broken so as long as you've tested it and feel<br> good about the code, go ahead and push it AFAIAC.<br> <br> Thanks,<br> <font color=3D"#888888">Joe<br> </font><div><div></div><div class=3D"h5"><br> ><br> > peace!<br> > -joel m aka dikatlon<br> ><br> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 3:25 PM, Lukas Lipka <<a href=3D"mailto:luk= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> >><br> >> I don't mean to sound nostalgic, but back then Beagle was one = of the<br> >> best and fun projects to hack on!<br> >><br> >> L.<br> >><br> >> On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 2:26 PM, Joe Shaw <<a href=3D"mailto:jo= [email protected]">[email protected]</a>> wrote:<br> >> > Hi Adam,<br> >> ><br> >> > On Mon, Feb 14, 2011 at 6:36 AM, Adam Tauno Williams<br> >> > <<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">awilliam@whitem= ice.org</a>> wrote:<br> >> >>> A major reason why I gave up on Beagle and<br> >> >>> the whole Linux desktop itself was due to this attitu= de. =A0I guess the<br> >> >>> developers of those apps are more thick skinned or re= silient than I<br> >> >>> was? =A0I don't know.<br> >> >><br> >> >> Time is also probably a factor, Beagle was AFAIK really t= he first<br> >> >> desktop Mono application of any note. =A0It was also ahea= d of its time as<br> >> >> a concept [I recall no shortage of long rambling posts ab= out how it was<br> >> >> useless anyway].<br> >> ><br> >> > Indeed. =A0Writing a Mono application at the time was a... ch= allenge.<br> >> > Beagle surely had its own set of performance problems, and th= e tools<br> >> > to profile and debug them were largely non-existent. =A0We ev= en wrote a<br> >> > few of them (heap-buddy, which has only recently been superse= ded by a<br> >> > new built-in profiler). =A0I would have killed for a working = debugger.<br> >> > :)<br> >> ><br> >> > When Beagle was started, the concept was actually pretty clea= r to us.<br> >> > We weren't looking to create a Spotlight for Linux (indee= d, Beagle was<br> >> > first publicly demoed on the day Apple announced Spotlight) -= - it was<br> >> > really designed as a means to an end: Dashboard needed an ind= ex to<br> >> > make intelligent queries against and get contextual clues. = =A0Beagle<br> >> > really grew out of that need, and became a user-centric tool.= <br> >> ><br> >> > Joe<br> >> > _______________________________________________<br> >> > dashboard-hackers mailing list<br> >> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">dashboard-hack= [email protected]</a><br> >> > <a href=3D"http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-h= ackers" target=3D"_blank">http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-= hackers</a><br> >> ><br> >> _______________________________________________<br> >> dashboard-hackers mailing list<br> >> <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">dashboard-hackers@g= nome.org</a><br> >> <a href=3D"http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hacker= s" target=3D"_blank">http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hacke= rs</a><br> ><br> ><br> ><br> > --<br> > Web:<br> > <a href=3D"http://www.openzource.org" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ope= nzource.org</a><br> ><br> > Cellphone:<br> > 0722-137374<br> ><br> ><br> > _______________________________________________<br> > dashboard-hackers mailing list<br> > <a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">dashboard-hackers@gnome= .org</a><br> > <a href=3D"http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers" t= arget=3D"_blank">http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers</= a><br> ><br> ><br> </div></div></blockquote></div><br><br clear=3D"all"><br>-- <br><u>Web: </u= ><br><a href=3D"http://www.openzource.org" target=3D"_blank">http://www.ope= nzource.org</a><br><br><u>Cellphone: </u><br>0722-137374<br><br> --0016363106119b7812049c455263-- --===============0293742432== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ dashboard-hackers mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/dashboard-hackers --===============0293742432==--