Regarding behaviour of Gnome and Fedora members

Ty Young via desktop-devel-list <[email protected]> Fri, 12 Jun 2020 05:50:59 -0500
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.desktop,gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.devel,gmane.linux.redhat.fedora.general
Message-ID <[email protected]>
Hi all,


Gnome recently has stirred up controversy lately and aren't taking other 
people's opinions very well, to say the least. So far they've locked 
three threads:


https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/gz6fks/we_must_all_speak_up/

https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h107as/i_agree_with_the_we_all_must_speak_up_and_the/ 


https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h0ml37/distrotube_has_posted_a_disgusting_video_calling/


They have engaged in racism and censorship in their subreddit's comment 
sections and, just recently, banned me for posting this article, which 
I've made:


https://medium.com/@youngty1997/gnome-needs-to-be-better-2151965fd663


You may read it for yourself. In it I cite violations of Gnome's Code of 
Conduct by members of the GNOME foundation or the GNOME 
foundation(gnome.org email address), both on their subreddit and from 
fedora-devel list. I tried to cite as much as possible but Gnome 
moderators refused to hand over the moderation logs for when they locked 
a thread for reporting a bug when asked. I'm confident that they know 
what I'm talking about but just refuse to hand it over.


Keep in mind that, in Gnome's subreddit rules, it's perfectly OK to 
criticize GNOME in GNOME's subreddit. It's even in the sidebar, which 
you cannot see on old reddit(something I've told them about multiple 
times, but they've ignored repeatedly to fix):


"We do not shy away from criticism, in fact, we encourage it!"


GNOME members have recently said that "This mixing of ideas from a wide 
range of backgrounds is something that has improved free and open source 
software, and it should be highly valued."


However, their actions by locking threads and now banned me for sharing 
an article I had made goes against this statement. To be crystal clear 
here, the opinions shared in the article are not *just* my own. You may 
also read people who agree with my opinions in comment sections of the 
GNOME subreddit and Fedora subreddit which I shared it to:


https://www.reddit.com/r/Fedora/comments/h7de62/gnome_needs_to_be_better/

https://www.reddit.com/r/gnome/comments/h7ddom/gnome_needs_to_be_better/


Gnome did not say that any new threads on the topic could be made nor 
was there any rule breakage that I could find. I would have loved to 
cite more things but alas, I don't have access to the information.


Sadly the moderators of each respective subreddits have censored the 
threads, and not even snew shows them for some reason. I've tried 
contacting the fedora subreddit moderators but I have a feeling they 
won't ever answer.


I was planning on fileing a Code of Conduct violation, but GNOME refused 
to turn over the requested moderation logs, so I couldn't do so and, 
Gnome's Code of Conduct hints as what the result will be anyway. I have 
zero confidence that anything will be done, so here I am sending an email.


So, could anything be done about any of this?