Re: Moving foundation-list to discourse?

Benjamin Berg <[email protected]> Wed, 23 Oct 2019 18:05:37 +0200
Newsgroups	gmane.comp.gnome.foundation.general
Message-ID	<[email protected]>
On Wed, 2019-10-16 at 18:47 -0700, Philip Chimento via foundation-list
wrote:
> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 1:50 PM Tobias Mueller <[email protected]
> > wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Fri, 2019-10-04 at 18:35 -0700, [email protected] wrote:
> > > I don't find it the best policy to optimize for the convenience of
> > > non-members who want to send insulting rants to foundation-list
> > Sure. But I don't think we're optimising for those. In fact, the number
> > of insulting rants is surprisingly low.
> 
> I would _expect_ zero. I don't sign up to the mailing list of a
> nonprofit so I can watch people abuse the nonprofit's staff.

I think most people would expect zero car accidents, yet they happen
and people do die. Should we ban cars now?

I agree that zero is a nice goal, but one needs to put things into
perspective. Don't forget that there are costs attached to any such
decisions. These costs can be both direct (e.g. enforcement) and
indirect (e.g. false negative rate). And you are also likely to have
other unforeseen side-effects.

And, I don't think that is purely theoretical. Somewhat related, I have
real concerns with the recently approved Code of Conduct documents; yet
I have not spoken up so far. Mainly because I don't feel the Board and 
Code of Conduct Committee would welcome the feedback.

Benjamin

> > Arguably lower than the number
> > of posts that were banned for no obvious reason.
> 
> Are we currently moderating posts on foundation-list or not? I
> thought this whole discussion was about the fact that we are not. If
> we are, and if legitimate posts are truly being banned, then clearly
> we need a different moderation process because it's not working in
> either direction. Can you give an example of a post that was banned
> for no obvious reason so we know what we're talking about?
> -- 
> Philip
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