Re: question about garnome startup script ...

Hi

Thanks for the info.

On 5/19/07, Peter <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> On Fri, 18 May 2007 22:09:56 +0800, Kuang-Chun Cheng wrote:
>
> > Hi,
> >
> > I just download Garnome-2.18.1 and successfully installed it. I use a
> > new account called 'garnome' which I want to use to test Garnome.
> >
> > In document http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/docs.html I found that
> > ...
> > Starting GARNOME
> > To use GARNOME you will first need to start the DBus, HAL, and Avahi
> > daemons. You can use the script below to do this ....
> >
> > But my Linux (SL5.0 or RHEL/5.0) already had dbus and hal running. Do I
> > need to kill the  running dbus and hal daemon and use the Garnome
> > version for the whole system ???  That sounds not good for me because
> > I'm not the only one using the Linux box ... and I'm worry about will
> > this affect other users ?
> >
> > If I can run Garnome session under Xnest or Xephr ... using a specific
> > user which
> > will NOT affect other users on the same Linux box, .... that will be
> > perfect to me.
> >
> > This is the 1st time I use Garnome.
> >
> > Thanks
> > KC
> > Hi,<br><br>I just download Garnome-2.18.1 and successfully installed
> > it.<br>I use a new account called 'garnome' which I want to use
> > to test<br>Garnome.<br><br>In document <a
> > href="http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/docs.html">
> > http://www.gnome.org/projects/garnome/docs.html</a><br>I found
> > that<br>...<br>Starting GARNOME<br>To use GARNOME you will first need to
> > start the DBus, HAL, and Avahi daemons. You can use the script below to
> > do this<br>.... <br><br>But my Linux (SL5.0 or RHEL/5.0) already had
> > dbus and hal running.<br>Do I need to kill the running dbus and
> > hal daemon and use the Garnome<br>version for the whole system ???
> > That sounds not good for me because <br>I'm not the only one using
> > the Linux box ... and I'm worry about will this<br>affect other
> > users ?<br><br>If I can run Garnome session under Xnest or Xephr ...
> > using a specific user which<br>will NOT affect other users on the same
> > Linux box, .... that will be perfect to me. <br><br>This is the 1st time
> > I use Garnome.<br><br>Thanks<br>KC <br><br><br><br>
>
> You have two choices. Allow the garnome scripts to kill all existing
> dbus, hal, and avahi processes and spawn its own versions. This will
> assure compatibility with all garnome features.
>
> See the README file for full examples.


Although I'm not 100% sure (I don't want to test before I got some
suggestions from here), I believe this method will affect other users on
the same Linux box.

OR, here's what I do as I also have dbus, hal, and avahi running.
>
> 1) Be sure to have proper versions of all running.
> 2) Adjust the garnome startup scripts to avoid killing and restarting
> garnome's versions of dbus, hal, and avahi. This will ensure that your
> versions are running.
> 3) Adjust the garnome startup script to something similar to this:
>
> #!/bin/bash
>
> GARNOME=$HOME/garnome
>
> PATH=$GARNOME/bin:$PATH
> LD_LIBRARY_PATH=$GARNOME/lib:$LD_LIBRARY_PATH
> PYTHONPATH=$GARNOME/lib/python2.4/site-packages:$GARNOME/lib/python2.4/
> site-packages/gtk-2.0
> PKG_CONFIG_PATH=$GARNOME/lib/pkgconfig:/usr/lib/pkgconfig
> GDK_USE_XFT=1
> XDG_DATA_DIRS=$GARNOME/share
> XDG_CONFIG_DIRS=$GARNOME/etc/xdg
> MANPATH=$GARNOME/man:$MANPATH
> # take this line out because it hard codes in the garnome path
> #DBUS_LAUNCH="$GARNOME/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session"
> # replace it simply with this
> DBUS_LAUNCH="dbus-launch --exit-with-session"
>
> export PATH LD_LIBRARY_PATH PYTHONPATH PKG_CONFIG_PATH \
>        GDK_USE_XFT XDG_DATA_DIRS XDG_CONFIG_DIRS MANPATH DBUS_LAUNCH
>
> exec $DBUS_LAUNCH $GARNOME/bin/gnome-session


This way is not good enough for me too.  But thanks anyway.
Unless Garnome itself is buggy, I hope I can have two independent
'stable' GNOME co-exist on my Linux box, so users can choose to have
up-to-date GNOME experiences.

The perfect solution I can think at this moment is running GARNOME
on Xnest/Xephr or XClient using other display number eg :1.0 or :2.0.
Or maybe chroot solution ... anyone has successfully done this ?

If GARNOME is not designed for this kind of use, I think I will simply
setup another Linux box to test new GNOME.

Best Regards
KC

Depending on how you use garnome, this approach may work flawlessly, OR
> you may have things break here and there. By removing these three core
> programs, you are introducing a lot of moving parts to the process.
>
> For my uses (I run gnome applications mostly without running gnome), I
> have no problems with system-wide versions of dbus, hal, and avahi.
>
>
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