Re: gender field in registration system

Better to just please everybody, I guess, if there really are people who
feel that strongly about it. Perhaps a public notice will be enough for
this year, so we can do it more properly next year.

On Wed, Aug 5, 2015 at 6:24 PM Ekaterina Gerasimova <[email protected]>
wrote:

> The reason this has been brought up is because there were been
> complaints in previous years from people who were contacted and did
> not want to receive the mail.
>
> Coincidentally, the gender field is not being used for contacting
> people this year as per the first email from Marina. I did not fill it
> in and I have been contacted already. This sort of behaviour is what
> polarises people over the issue. It doesn't help that the same email
> has already been sent to gnome-women-list as well.
>
> On 4 August 2015 at 20:11, Christopher Svanefalk
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> > IANAL, but the way I read the law regarding unsolicited email, it simply
> > means you should not be sending existing or potential consumers any
> > solicitation for commercial products or services. In this case we are
> just
> > sending a friendly notice that there will be a women's dinner, and a
> pointer
> > who to speak to.
> >
> > If you really want to get deep with it, I am sure we are already
> violating
> > 50-some other regulations already that we are not even aware of, anyway.
> > This one is not really even a violation.
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:55 PM Pascal Terjan <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> On 4 August 2015 at 17:44, Mattias Bengtsson
> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> > On tis, 2015-08-04 at 14:23 +0200, Alexandre Franke wrote:
> >> >> On Tue, Aug 4, 2015 at 7:08 AM, Marina Zhurakhinskaya
> >> >> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> >> > Hi Alexandre,
> >> >>
> >> >> Hey,
> >> >>
> >> >> > Thank you for relating this. I think the downside of someone
> >> >> > getting
> >> >> > an invitation they are not interested in is relatively small, so
> >> >> > it's
> >> >> > probably not worth having a separate checkbox for opt in for an
> >> >> > invitation. I know people prefer to keep the registration page
> >> >> > short.
> >> >>
> >> >> That's because you're in a US-centric mindset. There's a difference
> >> >> between the law in the US and in Europe: US is opt-out by default,
> >> >> Europe is opt-in by default.
> >> >>
> >> >> European people see unsolicited contact as a very bad thing, and the
> >> >> usual "Here's a piece of information about our thing, if you don't
> >> >> want to hear from us again just unsubscribe using the link at the
> >> >> bottom" is actually not ok.
> >> >
> >> > Oh come on! It's just an E-mail. It's not like anyone's getting
> >> > unwanted phone calls, it's also directly related to an event you have
> >> > signed up for.
> >>
> >> But is there a way to say we don't want to receive any email?
> >> If not we can't use the address to send emails related to the conference
> >> or not.
> >> This is required by european law (at the time when the email is
> >> collected, and again in each email).
> >>
> >>
> >>
> http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=CELEX:32002L0058:en:HTML
> >>
> >> > Also the thing about European vs American mindset... Neither Europeans
> >> > nor US citizens are homogeneous groups. The opinions will surely
> differ
> >> > more between citizens inside a country or continent than the aggregate
> >> > opinion will differ between continents and countries.
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> >
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