Re: Training workshops at GUADEC

Benjamin Berg <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.guadec
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On Di, 2016-04-12 at 12:39 +0200, Lasse Schuirmann wrote:
> Btw. can't you add a "Workshop" type of thing to the CfP system? One thing
> to rule them all, would be easier...

Yeah, it would be more consistent. I am not sure it would simplify
matters a lot from an organizational point of view though. So right
now, I doubt that it is worth the trouble.

Benjamin

> Sincerely,
> 
> Lasse Schuirmann
> 
> [email protected]
> http://viperdev.io/
> 
> 2016-04-12 12:13 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Berg <[email protected]>:
> 
> > 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On Di, 2016-04-12 at 11:45 +0200, Lasse Schuirmann wrote:
> > > 
> > > I'd certainly still be interested but won't have the time to
> > > coordinate
> > > everything around this as always. GSoC's going crazy right now
> > > and I'm
> > > doing stuff for too many orgs here.
> > > 
> > > I hope I can work out a few rough proposals, post them here and
> > > let you
> > > choose which you like so I can refine.
> > OK, someone will need to make a couple of executive decisions
> > though,
> > as I won't be the person actually doing the workshops. :)
> > 
> > > 
> > > I think a few questions are missing for the workshops IMO:
> > > 
> > > - How long should the workshop take? (Half day, day, two days
> > > possible?)
> > It is planned for 1 full day right now (i.e. August 11th).
> > 
> > > 
> > > - What should participants be able to do after the workshop.
> > > (Helps
> > setting
> > > 
> > > expectations right and usually also helps planning very much.)
> > > 
> > > Few organizational questiosn:
> > > 
> > > - Do we have any idea about the target audience? Very important
> > > for
> > > workshop holders to know.
> > I am totally fine with you deciding on the exact audience.
> > 
> > Ideally, I think it would be nice to have something that targets
> > (local)
> > students who are interested in free software and hopefully GNOME.
> > So my
> > guess is that it makes sense to expect some prior knowledge, but
> > not much
> > actual experience (e.g. they know what git is, but have never send
> > a patch
> > upstream).
> > 
> > > 
> > > - Will you be able to organize material locally? That usually
> > > includes
> > lots
> > > 
> > > and lots of sticky notes and threeish pieces of custom printed
> > > paper per
> > > participant. A projector with a few adaptors.
> > Sorry, I didn't forward that list to you. We will provide a seminar
> > room with the following:
> >  * projector
> >  * blackboard
> >  * WiFi and 1-2 LAN ports
> >  * multiway power extensions (1 socket per person)
> >  * chairs/tables
> > 
> > Adaptors are on my todo list to check and ping later. Anything else
> > should be requested so we can organize something.
> > 
> > Didn't think about paper/sticky notes before, sounds sensible to
> > include that for all workshops.
> > 
> > > 
> > > - Are there tables, arrangeable for group work?
> > Yes.
> > 
> > > 
> > > - For longer workshops, at least some water would be nice to
> > > prohibit
> > > dehydration.
> > Good point. Noted.
> > 
> > > 
> > > - It'd be great to have a BoF related or accompanying every
> > > workshop. A
> > > very critical point is to get people to try out the stuff even
> > > after the
> > > actual workshop. Knowing a place where they can come and hack
> > > *and ask*
> > > would be awesome. IMO we should encourage workshoppers to
> > > organize a BoF.
> > Oh, that is a good idea and easy to implement.
> > 
> > > 
> > > - Would be nice to have feedback sheets so we can measure the
> > > success and
> > > impact of the workshops. This is one big experiement so let's not
> > > forget
> > > gathering data.
> > Interesting, thought. For whatever reason I hadn't considered that
> > yet,
> > even though I have done exactly the same thing for other events.
> > 
> > Added it to my list. Biggest task is to figure out the questions to
> > put
> > on the sheets.
> > 
> > Benjamin
> > 
> > > 
> > > Sincerely,
> > > 
> > > Lasse Schuirmann
> > > 
> > > [email protected]
> > > http://viperdev.io/
> > > 
> > > 2016-04-12 11:30 GMT+02:00 Benjamin Berg <[email protected]
> > > et>:
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Hey,
> > > > 
> > > > On Mi, 2016-01-27 at 14:27 +0000, David King wrote:
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > I have done some introductions to git and GNOME inspired
> > Workflows,
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > maintaining projects properly in two universities
> > > > > > > recently and
> > people
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > seemed to like it. I could think of turning this into a
> > > > > > > workshop
> > if
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > there is demand.
> > > > > > Yeah, something like a GIT and maybe FOSS basics workshop
> > > > > > would be
> > > > > > great to see!
> > > > > I'd be happy to help plan and deliver these. I can only do
> > > > > them in
> > > > > English, so some German speakers might be good too (hi
> > > > > Lasse!)
> > > > are you two (Dave, Lasse) still interested?
> > > > 
> > > > It would be great to have descriptions for the workshops up
> > > > before
> > > > registration starts. So if you are still up for it, then I
> > > > would
> > > > appreciate it if one of you could step up to coordinate the
> > > > effort and
> > > > decide more precisely what we can offer at GUADEC :)
> > > > 
> > > > To be more specific, the information I am looking for is:
> > > >  * Title of the workshop
> > > >  * Short Description (for an overview page)
> > > >  * Long Description (for detailed page)
> > > >  * Expected prior knowledge
> > > >  * Pre-Requisites for attendees (e.g. VM with certain packages)
> > > >  * Minimum/Maximum number of Attendees
> > > >  * Name of everyone giving the workshop
> > > >  * Should your employer be listed as a sponsor?
> > > >  * Will you need travel sponsorships?
> > > >  * Optional: bio (+ image) for website
> > > > 
> > > > Benjamin
> > > >

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