Re: Announcement: this mailing list will be retired by the end of Oct 2022

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Hello Julia,

The l10n mailing lists won't be decommissioned at the end of October due to
some missing code changes in damned-lies, they will be decomm in mid
November I believe. Those lists will be replaced by Discourse though as
well. Discourse already has a localization category with a set of
sub-categories (split by language) [1], in the future we can eventually
keep the list name alive but just host it on Discourse instead. Discourse
allows a category to have an ingress mail alias you can use to create new
topics like you'd with a mailing list.

Regarding automated emails, those are going to be replaced by an entire
workflow happening in GNOME's GitLab. One of the damned-lies maintainers
mentioned me he was going to start a thread at [2], I haven't seen it
happening yet, if you care to send your questions there and kickstart the
discussion that would be great so other coordinators can chime in as well
and help Guillaume (DL maint) write a proper implementation up in
damned-lies code.

At your disposition in case of additional questions!

[1] https://discourse.gnome.org/c/international/23
[2] https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n

On Thu, Oct 20, 2022 at 2:48 PM Juliette Tux <[email protected]> wrote=
:

> Hello Andrea,
> Julia Dronova, Russian team coordinator here.
> Most (around 99%) of the mails here in the GNOME-cyr list are
> notifications from Damned Lies about uploaded translations, comments
> regarding those translations and so on, which are essential for me to rea=
ct
> and to go and submit the translations to the repos, communicate back with
> the devs about new translations etc.
> Could you elaborate regarding the Damned Lies code change and decommissio=
n
> of this list? What would be the new default destination of all those Damn=
ed
> Lies notifications? The Discourse? Is there any instructions/info on what
> actions i should perform in order to not lose track of those notification=
s
> and not interrupt our translations workflow? Is there any place where tho=
se
> future changes regarding Damned Lies are discussed and where I could go a=
nd
> clarify the matter?
> Most grateful in advance!
>
>
> On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 at 14:34, Andrea Veri <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> As we have been communicating during the past few months GNOME's Mailman
>> platform is being decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in
>> managing lists spam). The deadline is currently set to the end of Octobe=
r
>> 2022. Mailing list subscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME's Discour=
se
>> instance [1]. Neil made sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use =
to
>> initiate a new topic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please rea=
ch
>> out to me directly.
>>
>> Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instructions you can
>> follow [3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow to Discourse=
.
>> The new platform supports several login methods including your GNOME
>> Account and other major OpenID providers.
>>
>> After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will remain
>> alive in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list was used behi=
nd
>> an alias, please let me know so we can re-do the same setup but on
>> Discourse instead.
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> P.S All the l10n lists are still pending code changes in damned-lies, th=
e
>> deadline to decommission those lists may slip by a week or two depending
>> how soon those changes will be made available in DL codebase
>>
>> [1] https://discourse.gnome.org
>> [2]
>> https://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg000=
18.html
>> [3]
>> https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/1=
1534/5
>>
>> --
>> Cheers,
>> Andrea
>>
>> Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
>> GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
>> Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
>> GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman
>>
>> Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it
>> _______________________________________________
>> gnome-cyr mailing list
>> [email protected]
>> https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-cyr
>>
>
>
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Cheers,
Andrea

Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,
GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,
Former GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,
GNOME Foundation Membership & Elections Committee Chairman

Homepage: https://www.dragonsreach.it

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hello Julia,<div><br></div><div>The l10n mailing lists won=
&#39;t be decommissioned at the end of October due to some missing code cha=
nges in damned-lies, they will be decomm in mid November I believe. Those l=
ists will be replaced by Discourse though as well. Discourse already has a =
localization category with a set of sub-categories (split by language) [1],=
 in the future we can eventually keep the list name alive but just host it =
on Discourse instead. Discourse allows a category to have an ingress mail a=
lias you can use to create new topics like you&#39;d with a mailing list.</=
div><div><br></div><div>Regarding automated emails, those are going to be r=
eplaced by an entire workflow happening in GNOME&#39;s GitLab. One of the d=
amned-lies maintainers mentioned me he was going to start a thread at [2], =
I haven&#39;t seen it happening yet, if you care to send your questions the=
re and kickstart the discussion that would=C2=A0be great so other coordinat=
ors can chime in as well and help Guillaume (DL maint) write a proper imple=
mentation up in damned-lies code.</div><div><br></div><div>At your disposit=
ion in case of additional questions!</div><div><br></div><div>[1]=C2=A0<a h=
ref=3D"https://discourse.gnome.org/c/international/23" target=3D"_blank">ht=
tps://discourse.gnome.org/c/international/23</a></div><div>[2]=C2=A0<a href=
=3D"https://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n" target=3D"_blank">h=
ttps://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-i18n</a></div></div><br><div c=
lass=3D"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, Oct 20, =
2022 at 2:48 PM Juliette Tux &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]">=
[email protected]</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_q=
uote" style=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,2=
04);padding-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hello Andrea,<br>Julia Dronova,=
 Russian team coordinator here.<br>Most (around 99%) of the mails here in t=
he GNOME-cyr list are notifications from Damned Lies about uploaded transla=
tions, comments regarding those translations and so on, which are essential=
 for me to react and to go and submit the translations to the repos, commun=
icate back with the devs about new translations etc.<br>Could you elaborate=
 regarding the Damned Lies code change and decommission of this list? What =
would be the new default destination of all those Damned Lies notifications=
? The Discourse? Is there any instructions/info on what actions i should pe=
rform in order to not lose track of those notifications and not interrupt o=
ur translations workflow? Is there any place where those future changes reg=
arding Damned Lies are discussed and where I could go and clarify the matte=
r?<br>Most grateful in advance!</div><div><br></div></div><br><div class=3D=
"gmail_quote"><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_attr">On Thu, 20 Oct 2022 at =
14:34, Andrea Veri &lt;<a href=3D"mailto:[email protected]" target=3D"_blank">av=
@gnome.org</a>&gt; wrote:<br></div><blockquote class=3D"gmail_quote" style=
=3D"margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding=
-left:1ex"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Hi,</div><div><br></div>As we have been co=
mmunicating during the past few months GNOME&#39;s Mailman platform is bein=
g decommissioned (python2 deprecation, major burden in managing lists spam)=
. The deadline is currently set to the end of October 2022. Mailing list su=
bscribers are invited to migrate to GNOME&#39;s Discourse instance [1]. Nei=
l made sure [2] to create a set of tags you can re-use to initiate a new to=
pic in the new platform, if a tag is missing please reach out to me directl=
y.<div><br></div><div>Jehan (from the GIMP Team) kindly provided some instr=
uctions you can follow [3] in order to safely migrate your reading workflow=
 to Discourse. The new platform supports several login methods including yo=
ur GNOME Account and other major OpenID providers.</div><div><br></div><div=
>After the deadline of the end of October Mailman archives will remain aliv=
e in read only mode for posterity. If the mailing list was used behind an a=
lias, please let me know so we can re-do the same setup but on Discourse in=
stead.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><div>P.S All th=
e l10n lists are still pending code changes in damned-lies, the deadline to=
 decommission those lists may slip by a week or two depending how soon thos=
e changes will be made available in DL codebase</div><div><br></div><div>[1=
] <a href=3D"https://discourse.gnome.org" target=3D"_blank">https://discour=
se.gnome.org</a></div><div>[2]=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://mail.gnome.org/archi=
ves/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html" target=3D"_blank">http=
s://mail.gnome.org/archives/desktop-devel-list/2022-September/msg00018.html=
</a></div><div>[3]=C2=A0<a href=3D"https://discourse.gnome.org/t/welcome-to=
-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5" target=3D"_blank">https://discourse=
.gnome.org/t/welcome-to-gimp-forum-on-gnome-discourse/11534/5</a></div><div=
><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Cheers,</div>=
<div>Andrea</div><div><br></div><div>Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,=
<br></div><div>GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,<br></div><div>Former =
GNOME Foundation Board of Directors Secretary,</div><div>GNOME Foundation M=
embership &amp; Elections Committee Chairman</div><div><br></div><div>Homep=
age: <a href=3D"https://www.dragonsreach.it" target=3D"_blank">https://www.=
dragonsreach.it</a></div></div></div></div></div>
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=83=D0=B2=D0=B0=D0=B6=D0=B5=D0=BD=D0=B8=D0=B5=D0=BC, =D0=94=D1=80=D0=BE=D0=
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</blockquote></div><br clear=3D"all"><div><br></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr"=
 class=3D"gmail_signature"><div dir=3D"ltr"><div>Cheers,</div><div>Andrea</=
div><div><br></div><div>Principal Systems Engineer at Red Hat,<br></div><di=
v>GNOME Infrastructure Team Coordinator,<br></div><div>Former GNOME Foundat=
ion Board of Directors Secretary,</div><div>GNOME Foundation Membership &am=
p; Elections Committee Chairman</div><div><br></div><div>Homepage: <a href=
=3D"https://www.dragonsreach.it" target=3D"_blank">https://www.dragonsreach=
.it</a></div></div></div>

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