[GFTT] Pääpaino käännöksissa Gnome 2.5/2.6 haaralle [ oli Fwd: Re: 2.4 still relevant?]

Hei,

kuten Gnomen pääkäännösprojektin johtaja Cristian Rose tuossa alla
mainitsee, kannattaa panostaa Gnome 2.5/2.6 haaralle jatkossa. Sitten
sieltä voi halutessaan siirtää valmiit käännökset 2.4 haaralle.

Ajattelin muuttaa meidän keskustelulistat (gnome-fi-keskustelu ja
gnome-fi-laatu) jatkossa vain tilaajien listoiksi (vain tilaajat saavat
sinne spostia lähetellä) jotta hiukan rajoittaisi tuota roskapostia mitä
tänne tulvii. Toivottavasti se tuohon jotain auttaa...

/Sami Pesonen
The ryhmänjohtaja (jolla on selkeästi liian vähän aikaa johtamiseen)

-----Edelleenvälitetty viesti-----
> From: Christian Rose <[email protected]>
> To: Tomas Kuliavas <[email protected]>
> Cc: GNOME I18N List <[email protected]>
> Subject: Re: 2.4 still relevant?
> Date: Mon, 29 Dec 2003 18:12:52 +0100
> 
> mån 2003-12-29 klockan 17.46 skrev Tomas Kuliavas:
> > > > I've backported a few of my translations for HEAD to gnome-2-4. But
> > > is
> > > > there really any point to keep doing so? According to the release
> > > > schedule, there's not going to be any more GNOME 2.4 releases, so it
> > > > looks like any effort directed at gnome-2-4 is wasted.
> > >
> > > Yeah, I think 2.4 is more or less obsolete now, and that almost all
> > > translation efforts should go into 2.5/2.6 now. I've ignored 2.4 myself
> > > for the last round of updates that I've committed for other translators.
> > 
> > It is easier to translate 2.4 first and then merge 2.4 strings with 2.6.
> > 
> > Instead of translating bigger .po, translator translates smaller one first
> > and then translates rest of the strings in 2.6. And you get two branches
> > translated instead of one.
> 
> This would be true if there weren't many messages in 2.5/2.6 that had
> changed since 2.4, and where translating those 2.4 messages instead of
> their 2.5/2.6 counterparts brings nothing at all. Instead of translating
> once you have to do it twice, and one of those times with a large
> potential of it being wasted work to begin with (see below).
> 
> Furthermore, there will most likely be many new proposed modules in
> 2.5/2.6 which weren't included in 2.4, so you'll miss out on all those
> modules too if you are still focusing on 2.4 at this point.
> 
> 
> > I think when debian sarge reaches stable, it will contain gnome 2.4 and
> > not gnome-2.6. 2.4 translations will be used there. I think, even now
> > Sarge/testing contains more gnome translations than Gargnome 0.27.1 build.
> 
> Believe it or not, everything is not Debian. There are many more popular
> distributions out there, and most of them are way more uptodate than
> good old Debian. So using Debian releases instead of the actual
> gnome.org development work and timelines as the basis for the
> prioritization of the work seems way backwards. We cannot control what
> versions distributions decide to put in their releases, but we can
> decide what we put in our own. So using some specific distro version
> decisions as the primary decision factor for our own work is way
> backwards, IMHO.
> 
> Also, there's no guarantee that there will be any more 2.4 releases. So
> even if people translate 2.4 now and put their stuff into cvs, there's
> no guarantee it will show up in Debian Sarge at all.
> 
> In addition, you're comparing apples with oranges. The reason there are
> more translations in 2.4 is that it has been string frozen for many,
> many months (almost half a year I think). GNOME 2.5/2.6 is not anywhere
> near string frozen yet, so it is naturally bound to have many times
> fewer complete translations. These things will change (as they have also
> always done in the past) as soon as we get into string freeze and
> translators can catch up.
> 
> So, to sum this up, I don't see why you're proposing translating 2.4 at
> this time at all. It seems it's based on a lot of misunderstandings
> about our actual development procedure. People should work on 2.5/2.6
> translations now, and backport translations to 2.4 if they want to. But
> 2.5/2.6 should be the primary source for development now.
> 
> 
> Christian
> 
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