Feedback on the Action-Info Bar Proposal

Nick Richards <[email protected]> Wed, 18 Apr 2018 14:32:16 +0000
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.nautilus
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Hi there,

I'm a Product Manager at Endless, we ship Nautilus and a GNOME based
desktop to users all around the world and our users are squarely in the
target market for this feature. I grabbed the testing Flatpak and ran some
discussion internally with our design team.

We=E2=80=99re excited to see effort being put in to improve the user experi=
ence for
Nautilus, especially for users who are less familiar with computers or
struggle to navigate some of the hidden UI.

That being said, we=E2=80=99re not that thrilled with the current execution=
 and, if
it lands, would seek to disable it within Endless OS. Carlos, as you
mention in your blog post the visuals are quite imposing. However we feel
that the UI actually needs more hierarchy and differentiation. Several
equally sized text only buttons next to each other smoosh together into a
bit of a mush, which strikes against some of the discoverability
improvements of promoting actions out of context menus.

Overall, the second design option mentioned in the thread comes a lot
closer to our thoughts:

https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/uploads/be5f3f57a7ec6e3bea52809c01c=
34ef2/image.png


There=E2=80=99s an obvious positive action, less important actions are visu=
ally
deprioritized and there=E2=80=99s more variety by allowing icons. However f=
or us
the position at the bottom of the screen feels terribly disconnected and
we=E2=80=99d still love to try and find ways to bring these actions closer =
to the
selection that they apply to. Whilst it=E2=80=99s a lot harder to design an=
d
implement a more connected experience would be much better for users of
pointing devices.

I know that there's been some iteration of the designs on the gitlab issue
that looks encouraging but I wanted to make sure that you got some
'official comment' in the forums you asked for it. Once again, much
applause for attempting to improve the experience and being able to get
involved at an early stage - it=E2=80=99s a great example of GNOME connecti=
ng with
communities who we=E2=80=99ve found it hard to get feedback from and I=E2=
=80=99m sure that
we=E2=80=99ll be able to make better software for everyone because of it.

Thanks,

Nick Richards
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Nick Richards  |  +447881621787 |  Endless <http://endlessm.com/>

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<div dir=3D"ltr">Hi there,<div><br></div><div>I&#39;m a Product Manager at =
Endless, we ship Nautilus and a GNOME based desktop to users all around the=
 world and our users are squarely in the target market for this feature. I =
grabbed the testing Flatpak and ran some discussion internally with our des=
ign team.=C2=A0</div><div><div><br></div><div>We=E2=80=99re excited to see =
effort being put in to improve the user experience for Nautilus, especially=
 for users who are less familiar with computers or struggle to navigate som=
e of the hidden UI.=C2=A0</div><div><br></div><div>That being said, we=E2=
=80=99re not that thrilled with the current execution and, if it lands, wou=
ld seek to disable it within Endless OS. Carlos, as you mention in your blo=
g post the visuals are quite imposing. However we feel that the UI actually=
 needs more hierarchy and differentiation. Several equally sized text only =
buttons next to each other smoosh together into a bit of a mush, which stri=
kes against some of the discoverability improvements of promoting actions o=
ut of context menus.</div><div><br></div><div>Overall, the second design op=
tion mentioned in the thread comes a lot closer to our thoughts:</div><div>=
<br></div><div><a href=3D"https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/nautilus/uploads/b=
e5f3f57a7ec6e3bea52809c01c34ef2/image.png">https://gitlab.gnome.org/GNOME/n=
autilus/uploads/be5f3f57a7ec6e3bea52809c01c34ef2/image.png</a>=C2=A0</div><=
div><br></div><div>There=E2=80=99s an obvious positive action, less importa=
nt actions are visually deprioritized and there=E2=80=99s more variety by a=
llowing icons. However for us the position at the bottom of the screen feel=
s terribly disconnected and we=E2=80=99d still love to try and find ways to=
 bring these actions closer to the selection that they apply to. Whilst it=
=E2=80=99s a lot harder to design and implement a more connected experience=
 would be much better for users of pointing devices.</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>I know that there&#39;s been some iteration of the designs on the gitlab=
 issue that looks encouraging but I wanted to make sure that you got some &=
#39;official comment&#39; in the forums you asked for it. Once again, much =
applause for attempting to improve the experience and being able to get inv=
olved at an early stage - it=E2=80=99s a great example of GNOME connecting =
with communities who we=E2=80=99ve found it hard to get feedback from and I=
=E2=80=99m sure that we=E2=80=99ll be able to make better software for ever=
yone because of it.</div><div><br></div><div>Thanks,</div><div><br></div><d=
iv>Nick Richards</div></div></div>-- <br><div dir=3D"ltr" class=3D"gmail_si=
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