Re: Very sad: a serial killer in art.gnome

Hi:

After reading this email, it is really difficoult to me not to respond it.

First, Thanks Thiago for your words I totally agree with you.

Second, Let's try to keep this mailing list as a what it is now, a nice
space of sharing great things. So please, before writing think twice if
people would feel offended by your words, because I am sure many people feel
this way now. So please be respectful, a lot of people might think different
than you.

Last, get informed before talking. There are a lot of books, documentaries,
movies. Maybe what people says it is not true, just check it.
(Movies: Che 1 and Che 2, Documentaries: about Cuban revolution, books
like reminiscence of the Cuban revolution war) I have learned a lot of what
was happening before and after the revolution. After learning that  I have
become a great admirer of el che Guevara, I am sure you will understand more
things if too.


Thanks,

Silvina








On Thu, Jun 3, 2010 at 8:13 AM, Thiago Arroadie <[email protected]>wrote:

> Dear Antonius,
>
> I was really reluctant to answer you, but in the end, here we go.
>
> First of all, I think your comment totally misplaced...
> The create an analogy between Adolf Hitler and Ernesto Guevara is really
> going too far.
>
> I actually don't give a shit to the image (even that is pretty well made)
> but if someone wanted to share the ideology of the Cuban (and
> latin-american) revolution, a thing that I don't expect you to understand, I
> don't see a good reason for not doing it.
>
> Otherwise then the way you put it, and knowing that you certainly comes
> from a country that already wen't to a war, the history is and has always
> been told by those who won the wars. I don't expect you to call your
> president or war heroes "serial killers", "monsters" or "murderers". In
> fact, we give them glory and eternity, over the blood they trow and lives
> they took.
>
> A revolution is not made by raising flowers, unfortunately. And the image
> of Guevara is and will always be, the icon of the day the weak fought the
> strong and won. Won the right to chose their own destiny. What you call
> "socialism totalitarianism" (which is itself a really weird expression) were
> once called "free world" even that today this old dream is decaying.
>
> I really think you, one day, will be able to think from out of the box and
> see that the world where you live is bigger and has more people and cultures
> that you can imagine, so, respect them.
>
> Sorry for the weird English, I come from a weird Latin world.
>
> Best regards.
>
> Thiago
>
> 2010/5/26 Antonius Iesus <[email protected]>
>
> Hello all.
>>
>> First of all let me congratulate to all of you who make possible this
>> great project, Gnome.
>>
>> I'm just a user and I would never have thought of finding myself
>> writing to the gnome community, but sadly I have found myself morally
>> forced to do so.
>>
>> A few minutes ago I was changing the background of my desktop and
>> clicked on the link to the backgrounds page in art.gnome site. Then,
>> in page #6 I find a picture titled "Hasta siempre" (forever!) of
>> Ernesto "Che" Guevara, one of worst sadistic serial killers known in
>> the whole history of mankind and turned into one of the biggest icons
>> of socialist totalitarianism.
>>
>> Let me tell you that watching "that thing" have made me feel very sad,
>> as I believed and still believe that Gnome is not the place for that
>> kind of stuff, the same way that Gnome is not the place for showing
>> pictures of Adolf Hitler, Joseph Stalin, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro or any
>> kind of monsters like these ones, and the same way Gnome is not the
>> place for finding any type of apology of criminal ideologies.
>>
>> I'm sorry I'm writing to all of you but first, I have not found any
>> e-mail address of administrators of gnome, an second, Gnome is a
>> community and as member of this community (as user and occasional bug
>> reporter) I think I have the right to share this thoughts with all of
>> you.
>>
>> Please, you know the whole world is driving madder and madder in these
>> chaotic times of crisis, but I believe it is not so difficult to just
>> have a little of dignity, common sense and decency. In my opinion that
>> image of Ernesto "Che" Guevara and the like should not be part of this
>> great project, Gnome. I'm not asking for any kind of censorship or
>> political correctness, but just a sense of morality and respect in the
>> things we do.
>>
>> The links:
>>
>>
>> http://ftp.gnome.org/pub/GNOME/teams/art.gnome.org/backgrounds/OTHER-HastaSiempre_1024x768.jpg
>>
>> http://art.gnome.org/backgrounds/?page=6
>>
>> It has not been my intention to offend anyone.
>>
>> Thanks for your time and kind regards.
>>
>> God bless you.
>> Antonius Iesus.
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