[Fwd: Re: [Fwd: Re: Zoom Controls]]

Allan Day <[email protected]>
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnome.usability
Message-ID <1271860313.2411.18.camel@blackbox>
Forwarding Hylke's response to my original post:

-------- Forwarded Message --------
From: Hylke Bons <[email protected]>
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [Usability] Zoom Controls]
Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 15:17:20 +0100

> * To me, the feedback provided by sliders or percentage indicators (like
> those shown in Nautilus and EoG's statusbar) doesn't seem particularly
> useful. Generally, a user doesn't need to know if they are zoomed at
> 150% or if they have zoomed through half of the magnification range.

I agree about the relative to the zoom end part, but the % indication
is very useful to me as an icon designer.
I think there are also a lot of use cases where they can be handy to
people taking pictures.
Removing it probably won't affect a huge group, but leaving it in
doesn't either.

> * Sliders can be fiddly and difficult to use. This is partly because
> such sliders are typically horizontal and partly because their effects
> can be a bit wild and disorientating. Zoom ranges tend to be large,
> sliders short.

Completely agree.

> * The icons used for zooming are a bit problematic. Each of them
> features a magnifying glass containing either a + or a - or a 1 or a
> kind of box (for best fit). Though the magnifying glass does a good job
> in saying 'these are zoom controls', it introduces unnecessary
> repetition when you have two or three zoom icons next to each other.
> There's too much noise and the magnifying glass reduces the presence of
> the + or - or whatever.

We fixed this in 2.30. We don't have the loupes anymore as zoom icons.
instead we just use squares with marks in them. Like [+], [-], [1].

> * Best fit and normal zoom buttons should give feedback - they should
> appear depressed when zoom is at their level.

Agreed.

> * The relationship between normal zoom and 1:1 zoom seems a bit fuzzy.
> In EoG, 1:1 is described as 'Normal Size'. Nautilus also has 'Normal
> Size', but it is something quite different. The icon for normal size is
> called 'zoom-original' but would seem to convey the notion of 1:1,
> rather than the notion of 'Normal Size' used by Nautilus.

'Normal size' seems best to me. I think 'Normal Zoom' only works in English.


> * Apps should use a standard set (and arrangement) of buttons.
I think it differs a lot per app. We should assess each app and see
what is needed.

> * Avoid the idea/word 'Normal', since this could be confusing (different
> people will have different ideas of what normal is). Instead, use Best
> Fit and some notion of 1:1 when it is needed (maybe '1:1 Zoom'?).
> Typically, Best Fit will be the default view.

'Best Fit' seems the best translatable.

Hylke
lmpx.com only provides a reader for public news (NNTP) servers. It is not affiliated with the servers or forums shown here and is not responsible for the content of articles, which is written by their respective authors.