Re: Grayed out windows
Kirk Bridger <[email protected]> Tue, 24 Apr 2012 08:56:58 -0700
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This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --===============0697391359== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------090702070806050507040304" This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------090702070806050507040304 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Denoyse, I believe your concern about the lack of contrast in non-focused window treatment has been mentioned before (and I share it). I haven't seen mention of the dimming of window content though. I only have one monitor but use the auto-splitting feature pretty heavily (window dragged to the side of the monitor re-sizes to take up half the monitor). I don't see the text dimming in non-focused windows. I opened an HTML file in gedit and am typing this email in a tbird window. Both window's contents remain unchanged as I switch back and forth. Could this be related to a multi-monitor setup? In terms of usability, I'd say there is a strong case _*against*_ dimming window content. Just because a window doesn't have focus doesn't necessarily mean its contents are not being read. The auto-split feature is a strong one and we should ensure it remains functional, and dimming contents of a window out of focus makes it harder to read the content. That being said, this list might not be the most effective way to get this changed. I'd suggest you could gather support for changing this design (assuming it is by design). But the real development discussion is done in the Gnome Shell list [1]. Hope this was helpful, Kirk [1] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list On 04/24/2012 12:36 AM, denoyse wrote: > Hi Usability-List, > > i wanted to give some voice to an idea for improvement and hope, this > is the right place - else tell me, where to post the following test > ;-) > > I noticed, that inactive windows are grayed out. On the one hand, it > surely clarifies, which window is active. On the other hand, for a > two-monitor-user like me, reading text in the inactive windows becomes > harder considered for example gedit. In gedit, not only the window > title and the buttons become grayed out, but also the text - thus > making it harder to read. Is there a way to set an option in gconf? > Wouldn't it be a good idea not to gray out a windows content in future > releases? > > Hope this idea gets a bit of attention... > > Greetings, > Denoyse > _______________________________________________ > usability mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability --------------090702070806050507040304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit <html> <head> <meta content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"> </head> <body bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000"> Hi Denoyse,<br> <br> I believe your concern about the lack of contrast in non-focused window treatment has been mentioned before (and I share it). I haven't seen mention of the dimming of window content though.<br> <br> I only have one monitor but use the auto-splitting feature pretty heavily (window dragged to the side of the monitor re-sizes to take up half the monitor). I don't see the text dimming in non-focused windows. I opened an HTML file in gedit and am typing this email in a tbird window. Both window's contents remain unchanged as I switch back and forth.<br> <br> Could this be related to a multi-monitor setup?<br> <br> In terms of usability, I'd say there is a strong case <u><b>against</b></u> dimming window content. Just because a window doesn't have focus doesn't necessarily mean its contents are not being read. The auto-split feature is a strong one and we should ensure it remains functional, and dimming contents of a window out of focus makes it harder to read the content.<br> <br> That being said, this list might not be the most effective way to get this changed. I'd suggest you could gather support for changing this design (assuming it is by design). But the real development discussion is done in the Gnome Shell list [1].<br> <br> Hope this was helpful,<br> <br> Kirk<br> <br> <br> [1] <meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"> <a href="http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list">http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/gnome-shell-list</a><br> <br> On 04/24/2012 12:36 AM, denoyse wrote: <blockquote cite="mid:CAA+khQ=fSoKv_Ta8iZC2H+DEPaEXFqL8D072nuxvS70UvOq3hg@mail.gmail.com" type="cite"> <pre wrap="">Hi Usability-List, i wanted to give some voice to an idea for improvement and hope, this is the right place - else tell me, where to post the following test ;-) I noticed, that inactive windows are grayed out. On the one hand, it surely clarifies, which window is active. On the other hand, for a two-monitor-user like me, reading text in the inactive windows becomes harder considered for example gedit. In gedit, not only the window title and the buttons become grayed out, but also the text - thus making it harder to read. Is there a way to set an option in gconf? Wouldn't it be a good idea not to gray out a windows content in future releases? Hope this idea gets a bit of attention... Greetings, Denoyse _______________________________________________ usability mailing list <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:[email protected]">[email protected]</a> <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability">http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability</a> </pre> </blockquote> </body> </html> --------------090702070806050507040304-- --===============0697391359== Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Disposition: inline _______________________________________________ usability mailing list [email protected] http://mail.gnome.org/mailman/listinfo/usability --===============0697391359==--