Re: AOL mail on Evolution - Help!

> > > > Guenther - Help! I tried this and got a "connection refused" error
> > > > message as follows while trying to send from an AOL account:
> > > > 
> > > > "Error while performing operation:
> > > > MAILFROM RESPONSE ERROR: Unknown"
> > 
> > Authentication issue? Is this plain SMTP? Do you need to auth by
> > SMTP-after-POP?
> > Does AOL actually use SMTP? According to my /etc/services file, port 587
> > is "mail message submission".
> > You can check, if the SMTP server is set correctly by "asking" for
> > available authentication methods:
> > 
> > At the Sending Mail tab of that account, temporarily enable "Server
> > requires authentication" for testing purposes only and hit the "Check
> > for supported types" button. If this does not report any error, the SMTP
> > server settings likely are correct. Disable "Server requires
> > authentication" afterward, if not needed.
> 
> Guenther - I re-read the AOL instructions for "open mail access." The
> relevant part is as follows:
> 
> "The outgoing e-mail server is an SMTP server. The SMTP server requires
> authentication, and you will have to select this feature at some point
> in the set-up process. Using an authenticated SMTP server means that in
> order to send an e-mail you must log in the SMTP server with a user name
> and a password. The user name and password are the same as your AOL
> screen name and password. In addition, you need to change the outgoing
> mail (SMTP) port number to 587.
> 
> Outgoing mail server address:  smtp.aol.com"
> 
> So, I selected authentication, gave user ID and PW, and changed outgoing
> mail server to:  smtp.aol.com:587

Have you checked the available authentication methods? Please do this
like I told you. After checking, the authentication dropdown will allow
only supported mechanisms.

>From the above quote, it does not sound like SSL is used.


> Not only did this not work, it hi-jacked all of my outgoing mail, i.e.
> when I tried to send an e-mail from one of my POP mail accounts, the
> sending address by default was my AOL account. I couldn't change it, so
> I tried just giving the PW on request to see if it would send and it
> kicked back the same error message as before.

If you cannot change accounts when composing messages, this is a totally
unrelated issue. It works for me, and I never heard about anything like
this. :-/

Once again, assigning a port to the host should not have any effect on
your other accounts.


> > > > So, I deleted the :587 but now I can't send mail from *any* of my
> > > > accounts that use POP! I had to go into web mail to send this
> > > > message. How do I re-set this?
> > > 
> > > I shut down and re-booted -- my standard response to anything and
> > > everything ... :-)  --and my POP mail accounts are sending mail OK.
> > 
> > Well, I don't see how re-booting might solve this...
> 
> Perpetual newbie that I am, I've fallen back on shut-down-and-reboot
> many, many times since the "DOS days." It's amazing (to me, at least)
> how many times it works. I again shut down and rebooted, after putting
> the SMTP settings back to where they were (i.e. no authentication, no
> 587) and now I'm back to where I started.

Reboots are seldom the answer in UN*X/Linux land. ;)


> > All your accounts do have different SMTP server settings. Changing any
> > of them will have no effect to your other account settings.
> 
> That's what I thought, too, but AOL hi-jacked them nonetheless. (In the
> Windows environment using AOL sw, AOL, as you may know, has a long
> history of making changes to one's set-up, called upgrading, *without*
> giving you the option of refusing. I used to try to run AOL 3.0 in a
> Win-OS/2 environment in Warp 4. I loved OS/2, but AOL could literally
> bring it to its knees!).

I do know, that AOL had the habit of changing System settings. However,
this was *only* the case on Micros~1 Windows systems using a special AOL
software.

This won't happen on Linux machines. Even more, by simply setting a host
in a third-party app (non AOL software) AOL cannot change or hijack
anything. This is simply not possible.


If your other accounts settings are screwed after that or you cannot
change accounts in the composer, this would be an Evo bug -- if a bug at
all.


> > > Now, back to the original question and the ":587" not working for me...
> > 
> > Like I mentioned: Adding a colon and the port number to the SMTP server
> > should work, AFAIK. Note, that the above is an example only, as I don't
> > know the actual SMTP server of AOL...
> 
> Beats me. I don't use AOL that much, nor Windows for that matter. I keep
> the account for my mother who can no longer check her own e-mail due to
> blindness. At least I can get her incoming messages ...

Sending mails should work as well, as long as AOL actually uses SMTP
servers. Seems like this is the case. We just did not found your real
issue by now...

Maybe providing some more details about your settings (accounts) and the
issues you are encountering (what exactly does not work, like switching
accounts in composer?) will help.

...guenther


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