Re: Skipping syllables / LyricExtender

Thanks a lot! So this is clearly a documentation issue.

Am 04.01.2024 um 10:34 schrieb Paul Hodges:
> This came up in the user list just a month ago, when I asked about the
> use of _ instead of \skip1 causing a lyric to be misaligned because it
> started a melisma.  By chance I found the only (?) documented
> reference to "", which solved my problem with a less ugly notation
> than \skip1!  It seems that \skip1, _, and "" all have subtle
> differences which the documentation doesn't make sufficiently clear...
>
> Below is the mail that summarised these findings.
>
> Paul
>
> *From: *Michael Werner <[email protected]>
> *To: *Paul Hodges <[email protected]>
> *Cc: *<[email protected]>
> *Sent: *04/12/2023 12:37
> *Subject: *Re: Centering a word before a gap in the lyrics
>
>     Hi Paul,
>
>     On Mon, Dec 4, 2023 at 6:56 AM Paul Hodges <[email protected]
>     <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
>
>         I don't know where in the documentation the difference in
>         behaviour between \skip1 and "" as opposed to _ is explained.
>
>
>     It isn't much of an explanation, but in
>     http://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/notation/lyrics-and-repeats#index-_005cskip-1
>     is the line Note: do not use an underscore, |_|, to skip notes –
>     an underscore indicates a melisma, causing the preceding syllable
>     to be left-aligned.
>     A bit terse, to be sure. But mentioning an alignment issue I've
>     always stayed with using \skip to skip over a note, and only used
>     _ when it really was a melisma not explicitly notated in the music
>     (such as a tie or a slur).
>
>         But the opportunity is missed on these pages, the first of
>         which actually conflates the "" and _ notation:
>
>         https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/snippets/rhythms_003a-skips-in-lyric-mode-_00282_0029
>         https://lilypond.org/doc/v2.25/Documentation/snippets/rhythms_003a-skips-in-lyric-mode
>
>
>     This was the first time I'd seen the use of "" for something like
>     this. I'll have to keep it in mind. And looking at those two
>     snippet pages you linked they make it seem like all three options
>     are equivalent. Yet in the NR page I linked it says they are
>     different.
>
>     Well, I guess the important bit is you found something that does
>     what you need, and does it in a way that you're okay with.
>     --
>     Michael
>
>
>
> *From: * Michael Käppler <[email protected]>
> *To: * Paul Hodges <[email protected]>, "[email protected]"
> <[email protected]>
> *Sent: * 04/01/2024 9:07
> *Subject: * Re: Skipping syllables / LyricExtender
>
>     Thanks, Paul, but is this mentioned somewhere in the docs?
>     AFAICS, they recommend using \skip everywhere for skipping notes.
>
>     "" is shorter and more logical, since, unlike `\skip (dur)` it
>     does not request the duration argument, which
>     is ignored in Lyrics, anyway.
>
>     Michael
>
>     Am 04.01.2024 um 00:12 schrieb Paul Hodges:
>>     Replace the \skip 4 with "", as in:
>>
>>     %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>>     \version "2.25.0"
>>
>>     { c' (d') e' f' }
>>     \addlyrics { foo __ "" bar }
>>     %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>>
>>     Paul
>>
>>     *From: * Michael Käppler via bug-lilypond <[email protected]>
>>     <mailto:[email protected]>
>>
>>         Hi all,
>>         please consider the following example:
>>
>>         \version "2.25.0"
>>
>>         { c' (d') e' f' }
>>         \addlyrics { foo __ \skip 4 bar }
>>
>>         The \skip command does not terminate the extender line. This
>>         is at least
>>         unexpected.
>>         Opinions?
>>
>>         Michael
>>
>>
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