Re: "Church rests" inconsistency

Dan Eble <[email protected]> Thu, 13 Mar 2025 08:45:32 -0400
Newsgroups gmane.comp.gnu.lilypond.bugs
Message-ID <[email protected]>
On 2025-03-13 01:18, Werner LEMBERG wrote:
> 
>> Is it correct to notate these two `R\breve*6` rests differently?
>> Should there be a third mark in the 12/1 measure?
>>
>>
>> ```
>> \version "2.24.4"
>>
>> {
>>    \compressEmptyMeasures
>>    \time 2/1
>>    R\breve*6
>>    \time 12/1
>>    R\breve*6
>> }
>> ```
> 
> Yes, I think there should be a third mark – the vertical bar covering
> two staff spaces always has a length of 4/1, AFAIK.  Admittedly, I
> have never seen a 12/1 time signature in the wild, so maybe I'm wrong.

"Brobdingnagische Gigue" [1] is in 24/1, but it has grouped whole rests 
rather than the longer rests.

"Ecce gratum" from _Carmina Burana_, has isolated single measures of 
4/(1/2) time.  The sounding part has no rests.  Other parts have a 
centered whole rest with a fermata.  That might be the clearest 
rendering for the silent single measures in my test case too.

Since we both feel that there's something wrong with the rests here, 
I'll create a ticket about it later today.
-- 
Dan

[1] 
https://imslp.org/wiki/Intrada-Suite_for_2_Violins_%27Gulliver%27s_Travels%27,_TWV_40:108_(Telemann,_Georg_Philipp)