Re: voiced-position malfunctions?

Hi Lukas,

On 12/08/2026 15:56, Lukas-Fabian Moser wrote:
> Internally, voiced-position is read in Rest::staff_position_internal 
> if staff-position is not set manually for the rest in question. For 
> rests shorter than a minim, the voiced-position is taken as-is; for 
> longer rests, the rest gets aligned to a staff line, but I don't have 
> time at the moment to understand how the voiced-position override gets 
> used in that case.

Ok, I think that explains the effect in my example: the rest gets 
aligned to the nearest staff line, even though it should receive a 
ledger line to meet the sense of my \override command. Still odd that 
the same doesn’t happen for negative voiced-position values.
With all due respect, Keith’s solution to #3902 seems like a half-baked 
compromise, and the description for the voiced-position property is 
misleading, but I’ll get back to that replying to David.

>
> I don't know exactly what triggered your question, but I'd suspect 
> that the answer might be: Just use staff-position. 

I tried that first of course, and it didn’t work. I found the 
voiced-position property and jumped to the conclusion that it must be a 
“recent” addition causing staff-position to be disregarded on rests and 
MMRs. Well, I’ll test again why the staff-position override actually 
failed me.

Best, Simon